Where are the masks

[Bosun]

Yourself.

[Bosun]

The good thing is I did not listen to the fake science, except did get the vaccine. Other family members did not. Now we are waiting if I have any I’ll effects

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

The jury is still out on whether those of us who chose to be vaccinated are the wise ones. We might not know for years.

Long term effects show up within months, not years. Pretty sure we’ll be fine.

How ridiculous. The long-term effects, if there are any, will not be known until a long time passes.

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

And considering how much you hate Trump. I’m surprised that you took his vaccine.

No, I’m nowhere near as partisan as you.

I’m one of the least partisan people here. I haven’t been registered with a Political Party since 1972 … when I was a Democrat.

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@Bosun

As long as you think we will be ok. I agree partisan may not be accurate. It appears you may be 100 % progressively liberal.

Nope, not 100%. But unlike the anti-vaxxers, I am 100% in reality.

Sure you are … You think “long-term” is months.

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@WuWei

@Borgia_dude

Long term effects show up within months, not years.

Not always true.

Ok, what effect showed up years later?

It hasn’t been years.

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

The jury is still out on whether those of us who chose to be vaccinated are the wise ones. We might not know for years.

Long term effects show up within months, not years. Pretty sure we’ll be fine.

How ridiculous. The long-term effects, if there are any, will not be known until a long time passes.

You should tell the scientists as they seem to think long term side effects almost always manifest within months.

Serious side effects that could cause a long-term health problem are extremely unlikely following any vaccination, including COVID-19 vaccination. Vaccine monitoring has historically shown that side effects generally happen within 6 weeks of receiving a vaccine dose. At least 8 weeks’ worth of safety data were gathered in the clinical trials for all of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines and it is unusual for vaccine side effects to appear more than 8 weeks after vaccination.

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

The jury is still out on whether those of us who chose to be vaccinated are the wise ones. We might not know for years.

Long term effects show up within months, not years. Pretty sure we’ll be fine.

How ridiculous. The long-term effects, if there are any, will not be known until a long time passes.

You should tell the scientists as they seem to think long term side effects almost always manifest within months.

Serious side effects that could cause a long-term health problem are extremely unlikely following any vaccination, including COVID-19 vaccination. Vaccine monitoring has historically shown that side effects generally happen within 6 weeks of receiving a vaccine dose. At least 8 weeks’ worth of safety data were gathered in the clinical trials for all of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines and it is unusual for vaccine side effects to appear more than 8 weeks after vaccination.

“Almost always”

mRNA vaccines have not been widely used on humans before. This is an experiment of the largest magnitude in medical history.

And you are confusing the long-term effects of adverse symptoms that may show up within weeks (such as permanent heart damage) with symptomatic effects that do not show up until a long time passes. Those are two very different things. We know that there have been a few instances of the former, but we will not know if the latter will occur or not until a long time (years) goes by.

[WuWei]

@Borgia_dude

generally

@Borgia_dude

and it is unusual

Compared to what?

If you’re going to mandate, you might want more than a 2 week cushion for a new vaccine for a new virus?

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

The jury is still out on whether those of us who chose to be vaccinated are the wise ones. We might not know for years.

Long term effects show up within months, not years. Pretty sure we’ll be fine.

How ridiculous. The long-term effects, if there are any, will not be known until a long time passes.

You should tell the scientists as they seem to think long term side effects almost always manifest within months.

Serious side effects that could cause a long-term health problem are extremely unlikely following any vaccination, including COVID-19 vaccination. Vaccine monitoring has historically shown that side effects generally happen within 6 weeks of receiving a vaccine dose. At least 8 weeks’ worth of safety data were gathered in the clinical trials for all of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines and it is unusual for vaccine side effects to appear more than 8 weeks after vaccination.

“Almost always”

mRNA vaccines have not been widely used on humans before. This is an experiment of the largest magnitude in medical history.

And you are confusing the long-term effects of adverse symptoms that may show up within weeks (such as permanent heart damage) with symptomatic effects that do not show up until a long time passes. Those are two very different things. We know that there have been a few instances of the former, but we will not know if the latter will occur or not until a long time (years) goes by.

They were clear that serious long term side effects were exceedingly rare. Your hand waving doesn’t change that so your charge of “ridiculous” is unwarranted.

[Bosun]

Samm don’t waste your breath. The brother is pulling out leg.

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

The jury is still out on whether those of us who chose to be vaccinated are the wise ones. We might not know for years.

Long term effects show up within months, not years. Pretty sure we’ll be fine.

How ridiculous. The long-term effects, if there are any, will not be known until a long time passes.

You should tell the scientists as they seem to think long term side effects almost always manifest within months.

Serious side effects that could cause a long-term health problem are extremely unlikely following any vaccination, including COVID-19 vaccination. Vaccine monitoring has historically shown that side effects generally happen within 6 weeks of receiving a vaccine dose. At least 8 weeks’ worth of safety data were gathered in the clinical trials for all of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines and it is unusual for vaccine side effects to appear more than 8 weeks after vaccination.

“Almost always”

mRNA vaccines have not been widely used on humans before. This is an experiment of the largest magnitude in medical history.

And you are confusing the long-term effects of adverse symptoms that may show up within weeks (such as permanent heart damage) with symptomatic effects that do not show up until a long time passes. Those are two very different things. We know that there have been a few instances of the former, but we will not know if the latter will occur or not until a long time (years) goes by.

They were clear that serious long term side effects were exceedingly rare. Your hand waving doesn’t change that so your charge of “ridiculous” is unwarranted.

I’m not charging anything. You’re missing the point. what you’re talking about is long term health effects that show up in days or weeks. What I’m talking about is the possibility of adverse health effects that won’t show up for a long time. And I’m not saying that will happen, I’m saying that we won’t know if such effects might occur until a significant time has past. Why are you being so insistent, when the only thing that will tell is time?

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

What I’m talking about is the possibility of adverse health effects that won’t show up for a long time.

And like my link and many others say, any vaccine side effects almost always turn up within months at the latest so the chance that we will see side effects now after 15 months is quite remote. Note I’ve never said it is impossible.

So I was hardy being “ridiculous” in repeating what the experts say.

[Samm]

You are still referring to relatively short-term manifestation of long-term health effects. I’m not.

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

You are still referring to relatively short-term manifestation of long-term health effects. I’m not.

The point is serious health effects manifesting any time AFTER a few months are very, very, very rare for vaccines.

[Bosun]

There is no point.

[Borgia_dude]

@Bosun

There is no point.

You tugging my apron stings again?

[Bosun]

You been tugging mine all day.

[Borgia_dude]

@Bosun

You been tugging mine all day.

That doesn’t sound right…

[Samm]

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

You are still referring to relatively short-term manifestation of long-term health effects. I’m not.

The point is serious health effects manifesting any time AFTER a few months are very, very, very rare for vaccines.

Granted, but that was not the point. The point is, we don’t know yet whether there are effects that take a long time to manifest. Nobody does, because a long time has not yet transpired.

[Borgia_dude]

@Samm

@Borgia_dude

@Samm

You are still referring to relatively short-term manifestation of long-term health effects. I’m not.

The point is serious health effects manifesting any time AFTER a few months are very, very, very rare for vaccines.

Granted, but that was not the point. The point is, we don’t know yet whether there are effects that take a long time to manifest. Nobody does, because a long time has not yet transpired.

Agreed, although it is entirely germane to the point.