When should Judicial Appointments Stop?

So I bring this up because I’m conflicted on this. As of today, since the election, the senate has approved ten judicial appointments. 1 appellate and 9 district. So the Biden administration/Democrat senate is still approving these.

Trump has specifically said he thinks no judges should go through. Which is different from what he did in 2020. Where he lost the presidency and the senate but still wanted judges going through. And this isn’t a TDS thread, but that’s just what happened. So his complaints ring a little hollow.

But I would be curious on a rule both parties have. Is it that after the election there are no judicial appointments? But that is literally a lot of their time where they’re just not working. And then you get into different scenarios. I was taught by McConnel that if you’re president and you don’t have the senate you’re not allowed to appoint any judges. Which is what happened. But I don’t actually want that. So I’m not annoyed at Trump doing it in 2020 or Biden doing it in 2024. But the Ginsberg one did annoy me. Because of the McConnel decision about Scalia. That breakdown of how that was the correct thing to do that the founders wanted but then it changed drastically…that one will always bother me. But in general terms how do people feel about judges being appointed now?

In my humble opinion Presidents should be allowed to make appointments, nominate individuals and have that nominee go through the confirmation process right up until the day they leave office.

Otherwise why not just have inauguration day for the new President in the middle of November.

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I don’t believe he really conditioned it to the senate. He said in the election year. And obviously , this went away in 2020.
Lindsey Graham even explicitly said “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term and the primary process has started, we’ll wait till the next election". And then he didn’t.

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So I’m going to have to call you out on this. About being disingenuous. Link below is Obama judicial confirmations:

Between 2009 and 2014 there were 53 appellate court appointments under Obama. And then in 2015 and 2016 there were two.

And between 2009 and 2014 there were 250 district court appointments. And in 2015 and 2016 there were 18.

Don’t be disingenuous. We all know exactly what McConnel did. And he’s a hero to the right. But again, don’t be disingenuous.

I was specifically referring to the Merrick Garland SCOTUS appointment in 2016. Mitch McConnell seemingly made up a rule (can’t have SCOTUS appointments in an election year) and then four years later after RBG passed away, he promptly went back on said rule and so did the rest of Senate Republicans.

That is what I was referring to. Now - how specifically was I wrong ?

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I literally said it, McConnell decided no judges if the Republicans have the Senate. This idea that he only did it for the Supreme Court if a horrible lie that I hope you know. Look at that the stats. Not Supreme Court and not election years. He shut down appointments. And he’s a hero here.

And you posted this:

But I was talking about how McConnel decided that if the Senate has Republicans in control, no judges will got through(not literally because he let two appelate judges through in two year). McConnel decided that only Senate Republicans can let judges be appointed. And he is a literal hero here and elsewhere. And that is sickening to me.

Did I say only SCOTUS ? Now THAT might be a horrible lie, which I hope you know :wink:

they should stop when the Senate stops them

and as long as they control the Senate, they will. f the opposing party controls the Senate, they will not. This is how it has always been.

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The Constitution decided that.

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When the senile POTUS should have been removed from office via the 25th amendment in July, the judicial appointments should have stopped.

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I agree that Jill should not be allowed to appoint judges.

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unless you are in night court, judicial appointments should stop before 5:00

Each party appoints as many judges as they possibly can. That is the only rule.

A great description of a facet of our political arena.

No disagreement from me on that at all.

Hero on limited things. RINO on may others. Most conservatives are giddy-glad he’s not going to be leading the next session of the Senate.

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The current controversy is that an agreement was made in the senate that Republicans would allow nine judgeships to be appointed and in return four appellate judgeships from announced retiring judges would be appointed by Trump. After allowing the nine to have cloture, there appears to be a question of those planned retirements to be withdrawn due to the election of Trump. This, of course, proves the true partisanship of the judicial system as well as causing a problem with the senate agreement.

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I have no feelings one way or the other. I expect Senate business to continue with DEMs in control, until the new Senate is seated.

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sounds like a case for impeachment.