The founding fathers wrote the constitution as a means to end slavery?
Which founder said that?
Itâs not projection. It is what actually happened.
The one who wrote the actual document wanted to put in a piece about Slavery being immoral but he was rejected by the rest.
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Were new slave states admitted to the union after 1789?
Was the domestic slave trade curtailed or expanded?
That was the date when Article 1, Section 9, Cl. 1 allowed Congress to end the importation of slaves . . . one of the Constitutionâs provisions leading to a total end of slavery in the United States.
JWK
Yeah, them dudes really had it terrible, almost to a man being among the wealthiest and most powerful people in the colonies. It was just like chattel slavery!
The amendment process didnât end slavery.
It took a war to do that.
A war other countries did not have to fight.
I get it the Founders were in a tough spot, but the idea they were interested in ending slavery is silly.
And they moved far more slowly against it than the other countries upon which the OPer would devolve Americaâs guilt.
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This is why you should never worship politicians. Politicians are ass-kissers, suck-ups and backstabbers by temperament and inclination. All of them.
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this is the exact reason why Canada kept the Queen as head of state.
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Thirteenth Amendment
Section 1
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
The Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery.
JWK
Words on a piece of paper end nothing.
Just like the DoI did not make the US independent.
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That doesnât outlaw slavery, it allows it for punishment.
What is silly and disingenuous is to paint all our founders with the same brush!
JWK
So, I take it you are against a chain gang, or criminals forced to pay restitution?
JWK
You mean Slavery with extra steps?
I will agree with you on this one and only point.
There were framers who were stridently anti-slavery, such as Benjamin Franklin and others who were ultimately overruled.
But clearly there were a large fraction of framers who desired that slavery be institutionalized.
There are ample resources on the internet to identify which framers stridently opposed slavery, those that stridently endorsed it and those that were willing to compromise in the interest of getting a final agreement.
Perhaps the north and south should have gone their separate ways in 1787, as that likely would have been the only way the north could have achieved a non slavery constitution.
That would have inevitably led to war anyway.
There is no way the question of slavery between the north and south could have been solved without war.
Slavery was way to integrated into the Southern economy for them to just peacefully walk away from it.
Well, in the end, the Constitution was adopted and it has proven to be a miracle. Unfortunately, not only is it denounced by our hate America Crowd, but it is being shredded by the very officers charged with defending it.
JWK
Plus there was the fact that many of them were hypocrites.
Iâve made it clear on this forum numerous times that Jefferson is by far my favorite founder and his ideology is the cornerstone of my own political ideology.
But he was a hypocrite of the highest order and a rapist. He spoke of the right to liberty for all men while keeping dozens of slaves in chains.
I can separate his political genius and ideology from his personal failings, of which he had many.
None of them were perfect. We idolize them as demigods. But almost all of them were hypocrites on one issue or another, slavery being the most egregious one.
Nah, that doesnât seem ripe for abuse at all.
