What liability will there be for transgender treatments on minors?

This is the sort of thing that shouldn’t be allowed even WITH parental consent, just like those gay conversion treatments.

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Yes it is. And here’s some power for you!

The testimony also detailed a number of dangerous side effects associated with puberty blocking drugs and cross-sex hormones. Those side effects allegedly include heart attack, stroke, diabetes, hypertension, and cancer, in addition to the fact that transgender adults are twenty times more likely to commit suicide than those in the general population.

Did you miss that part? :man_shrugging:

Hey, if you can’t trust the American College of Pediatricians and Health Impact News, who in the world can you trust? :rofl:

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What you posted still isn’t accurate. :man_shrugging:

16010.2.

(a) The department, in consultation with pediatricians, other health care experts, including public health nurses, and experts in and recipients of child welfare services, including parents, shall develop a plan for the ongoing oversight and coordination of health care services for a child in a foster care placement. The plan shall ensure a coordinated strategy to identify and respond to the health care needs of foster children, including mental health and dental needs, consistent with Section 205 of the federal Fostering Connections to Success and Increasing Adoptions Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-351).

(b) (1) The right of minors and nonminors in foster care to health care and mental health care described in paragraph (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 16001.9 includes covered gender affirming health care and gender affirming mental health care. This right is subject to existing laws governing consent to health care for minors and nonminors and does not limit, add, or otherwise affect applicable laws governing consent to health care.

(2) The department shall, in consultation with the State Department of Health Care Services and other stakeholders, develop guidance and describe best practices to identify, coordinate, and support foster youth seeking access to gender affirming health care and gender affirming mental health care and shall incorporate current guidance on ensuring access to Medi-Cal services for transgender beneficiaries. This consultation may be incorporated into existing departmental workgroups focused on foster youth rights or on foster youth sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression. The department shall issue written guidance by January 1, 2020.

(3) For purposes of this section, the following definitions apply:

(A) “Gender affirming health care” means medically necessary health care that respects the gender identity of the patient, as experienced and defined by the patient, and may include, but is not limited to, the following:

(i) Interventions to suppress the development of endogenous secondary sex characteristics.

(ii) Interventions to align the patient’s appearance or physical body with the patient’s gender identity.

(iii) Interventions to alleviate symptoms of clinically significant distress resulting from gender dysphoria, as defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition.

(B) “Gender affirming mental health care” means mental health care or behavioral health care that respects the gender identity of the patient, as experienced and defined by the patient, and may include, but is not limited to, developmentally appropriate exploration and integration of identity, reduction of distress, adaptive coping, and strategies to increase family acceptance.

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Your rebuttal is still not accurate. :man_shrugging:

The testimony also detailed a number of dangerous side effects associated with puberty blocking drugs and cross-sex hormones.

Against parents will. Your comment. It’s wrong. :man_shrugging:

It’s not my comment. It’s the title of the article. :man_shrugging:

"New California Law Allows Children to Get Transgender Treatments Without Parental Consent."

And as the thread has quickly sussed out, that is wrong. Which is not surprising considering the source. Knowledge is power!

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Here is a local news source for the same story:

The final settlement was increased to $6 million in 2018:

I know, the story did not appear in the New York Times so it never really happened . . .

The department shall issue written guidance by January 1, 2020.

Okay, it looks like regulations regarding transgender treatment for children should take effective today. We will see what happens.

Care to explain what that story has to do with the misinformed assertion that parents risk losing their children if they object to their transgender therapy?

Eventually.

The story demonstrates that California child protection departments are more than happy to remove children from homes if they disagree with care and/or with the medical treatments provided by parents.

In most cases parents lack the resources or determination to pursue a lawsuit that can drag on for eight years before the final settlement. In a case involving an adolescent, the state could impose treatments and drag out the process until the child turns 18. Any attempt from parent to interfere with state-imposed treatments will be immediately denounced as evil transphobic bigotry.

On the other hand, children who are permanently damaged by the transgender treatments that they later regret may have an easier case in collecting damages once they are adults. That is true even if parents approved and supported the treatment. That is the main point of the OP.

Oh, so you didnt have any real proof of the assertion? I didnt think so

That is in no way, shape or form correct

I did find this website for the Kelsey Coalition, a support group for parents who have had to fight the state to avoid the hormone and surgery approach to treatment of their children.

Here is an excerpt from one testimonial:

Many of us have given up our careers and homes of 20-30 years to move to a state not yet over-run with affirmation-only approaches.

In our former home state of Oregon, children as young as thirteen can be taken away by the State if their parents will not agree to seeing them hormonally and surgically altered. Also in Oregon, kids of fifteen can get taxpayer provided hormonal / surgical procedures without parental consent.

What if it was your kid? Imagine if your daughter was anorexic and you were told by a doctor that you had to validate her delusion that she was fat? How would you feel if you were told to get her “body-size-confirmation” surgery which would cut her stomach down to 15% its normal size and put her on doses of methamphetamine for the rest of her life to keep her “proper body size?” What if you were told that talk therapy to overcome her eating disorder was “dangerous” and could lead to suicide? What if teachers and doctors called your Daughter fat? What if the dominant media celebrated anorexia and called people who didn’t agree bigots? That is our world, that is what we face only the words—gender instead of anorexia—are different.

https://www.kelseycoalition.org/pubs/Parents-Speak-Out%3A-How-Health-Care-Professionals-Failed-Their-Daughter

Here is a link to additional testimonials from parents:
https://www.kelseycoalition.org/testimonials

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I forsee (if things keep going this way,) a 7 way great war between lesbians, the Transwomen Transmen, Autogynes and MS-13 selling hormones, and regular women and soy Boys. All within a succeeded CA. They would call it, the Babylonian Baloney, Frisco Wars.

How do you know they are real testimonies and not made up?

When I used to live in NYC, before I escaped the rat race, there were parents even back in 2013 “transitioning” their children.

Not only is this child abuse, they’re defacto sexualizing children. Most of the parents of these children are the worst type of white liberals. The are literally torturing their children to virtue signal to the rest of society.

Google ‘Desmond is Amazing’ if you really want to vomit.

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