Those plastic barriers and tape distances are there to limit transmission versus coughs and sneezes. Sure, they aren’t 100% effective but they are far better than nothing. That convenience store clerk is meeting hundreds of people per day. Some cough, some sneeze. Wouldn’t you feel better with that plexiglass between you two or would you be fine with nothing?
Again, it isn’t 100% effective but likely is over 90% effective.
You’re conflating. Infected doesn’t equal weak. Those who pass from the virus are, in a clinical sense, weak.
Why would you say that?
It shows that viral load and perhaps blood environ are elevated factors.
We know that the people with underlying medical conditions are the ones that isolating is needed for.
Isolating the healthy is counter productive.
NYC said they would clean the subways in early March and actually cleaned them yesterday and even with this we only has 2% of fatal cases for healthy individuals.
The momentum for opening up is palpable.
Stay safe if you are medically compromised.
I think he is being rhetorically nuanced to keep the fear factor going for the scary CCP virus.
I don’t think its working.
The comment. I was responding to was “The virus preys on the weak.” Your response is a stretch at best.
So you are saying the only mitigation needed is that those who are “medically compromised” should continue to self isolate.
The momentum for reopening is more political than palpable, of course.
Trump believes that if the focus remains on the virus he is going to lose in November so: stop the daily briefings. disband the task force, shift to restarting the economy.
We’ll all be better off if he is right… but right now almost all Democrats, almost all Independents and about half of Republicans think he is moving too fast. The data on that are clear.
No, my comment is spot on. The virus is 3 times as transmissible as the flu. No one is calling those who get infected “weak.”
New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts - less than 15% of the population, about 50% of the issue. Why?
One word, subway.
Gaslighting. If the poster has said “the virus is fatal primarily to people with pre-existing conditions” that would have been what you were talking about. “preying on the weak” may have been a poor choice of words, but the implications were clear.
Why can’t anyone here just say, “Hey poor choice of word, sorry 'bout that” rather than always insisting such statements meant something else.
You’re the one assigning intent. Maybe you got it wrong? But you’re right, people can’t admit when they do that.
I’d like to hear more about mitigation.
Are the “rules” (6ft, wash your hands, don’t touch your face) effective, at all?
Is it a function of how well you do it?
Do I really need at least an N95 mask (properly worn) to effectively avoid air transmission?
I’m asking selfishly for myself here as I’m in a higher risk group.
My range opens today and they’re implementing some mitigations (only 2 in the office at a time, sneeze guard on the sign-in desk, every other bench closed).
I’d like to have a reasonable chance to avoid getting sick if I just follow the “rules” well.
By reasonable I’m thinking of about the same chance of getting in an accident on the way there.
Thank you for your thoughts, your OP is well constructed, honest and interesting to read.
I don’t agree with a few things, but I appreciate your honest efforts here.
From all accounts, antibody positive patients are immune. Dying lung cells can secrete RNA remnants which may give a false positive COVID test, but these are inactive cells.
It was piss poor because Nursing Homes in the US are awful. I don’t believe in a totally socialist system, but once you retire we should take care of our elderly population. That means not having retired folks bankrupt themselves just to get continuous care.
It means paying a good wage to care for the elderly instead of minimum wage.
We should reemphasize in home care when possible with well paid nursing care via home visits. It is the right thing to do, Nursing Homes are incredibly depressing and stressful for the elderly.
Of course I get it wrong some of the time. But I don’t get it wrong every time… and what I am observing is everyone else around here always insists on using perfect words.
And then there is the apparent unwillingness to consider that no matter what one intended, the words one chose turned out to be troubling to other people. That never seems to be acknowledged; instead there is a constant drumbeat of "Your reaction to my (perfect) words is incorrect.
Population density and a delay in shutting off flights coming in from Europe. Most of the initial infections were linked to RNA strains seen in Europe, not Asia.
What is interesting about this virus is that it is highly blockable by face mask. Flu and Cold viruses not so much, but if you are infected and just wear a 3 ply mask it will block 99 percent of the viral load. You don’t get the same benefit if you are not infected though, it doesn’t block free viral loads in the air as well.
So, bottom line, you are depending on others who are infected to wear their mask, and a lot of them have no idea they are infected. Which is why everyone should just wear a mask for the time being.
Thanks.
I’m discouraged to see how many people are not wearing masks in my area.
Do you think the majority of infections are occurring via air transmission vs touching stuff?
I see in my state we’ve dropped from a peak of around 400 cases/day down to around 200/day after 6 weeks of ‘stay at home’ rules.
That worries me; why are there still that many new cases? What happens when we remove the rest of the restrictions?
I wish we had data on who’s continuing to get infected (e.g. essential workers vs others just out and about) and how they’re catching it.
I read an article where a doctor stated that the “how” just isn’t realistically knowable.
