Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice.

If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie.

Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion?

Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems?

Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept?

Regards
DL

Jesus carried the sins of the world with Him when He went to the cross.

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And Jesus was a Jew.

I don’t subscribe to the popular doctrine of “Original Sin.”

Romans 5:6 While we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 Why, one will hardly die for a righteous man–though perhaps for a good man one will dare even to die.
8 But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.
9 Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.
10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
11 Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received our reconciliation.

12 Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned–

13 sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.
14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sins were not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift in the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
16 And the free gift is not like the effect of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brings justification.
17 If, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
18 Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man’s act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men.
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man’s obedience many will be made righteous.
20 Law came in, to increase the trespass; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
21 so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Isn’t the entire point of the Immaculate Conception to work around that problem?

The Immaculate Conception is about Mary…not Jesus.

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OP’s question relates to whether Jesus was tainted by Original Sin. How does the Immaculate Conception affect Jesus in that regard?

Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, who is without sin. He was born of a virgin who was conceived without sin (i.e., the Immaculate Conception). Scripture tells us that Jesus was tempted in every way that we are, but he did not sin, that he was without sin.

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Am I missing something?

You asked the question. Why are you questioning the question?

You’re missing something.

Catholic teaching is that Mary was filled with grace, and without sin. Have you other information?

I disagree, as would a young girl named Bernadette and more recently a Jew, who became an atheist, and then changed his mind about Christianity upon his own encounter with Mary.

There is no need for you to share Catholic beliefs about Mary, but unless you have information to the contrary to share, then there is nothing to discuss or debate, either.

The body is mortal, and it dies…the spirit returns to God. Jesus taught us that sin comes from the heart, from within. Jesus was without sin, yet his body died as well.

Death is separation from God. God didn’t create people to live forever. Mary also needed a Savior.

Jesus was born into original sin but was sinless until death.

My own opinion, based on my study of scripture, is that no one is born with what has been postulated by theologians to be “original sin”.

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From my quote of Romans 5:

Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned–
“Death spread to all men” “because all men sinned.” The passage doesn’t say “sin spread to all men.”

Adam and Eve were separated from God when He put them out of the Garden.
Spiritual death is not the same as physical death.

12 Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned–**

The Greek text does not say "… so death spread to all men because all men sinned (hoti pantes hamarton) . "

It actually says, “… so death spread to all men, upon which all sinned (eph’ hO pantes hamarton).”

Death gained dominion over all humans because of Adam’s sin. Our limited life span Satan uses to pressure us into sinning. He convinces us to use selfish means to get pleasure out of life before it passes. By coming and assuring us of eternal life, Jesus disarms Satan of this psychological weapon.

Heb. 3:14 For as much then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil,
15 and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

13 sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.
14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sins were not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift in the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
16 And the free gift is not like the effect of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brings justification.
17 If, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man* , much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
18 Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man’s act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men .
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many ( no all) were made sinners ( through the psychological pressure of a limited existence) , so by one man’s obedience many (not all) will be made righteous.
20 Law came in, to increase the trespass; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
21 so that, as sin reigned in (by means of) death , grace also might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord** .

Greek to English interlinear: "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death came through sin, and so death spread to all because - (inasmuchas) all have sinned.---------

-------sin was indeed in the world before the law, but sin is not reckoned when there is no law." Romans 5:12-13

When God told Adam not to eat of the one tree, he laid down a law right there. When Adam disobeyed God and ate of the tree, he sinned. That sin brought death - separation from God.

What we lost in Adam, we found in Christ.

Romans 5:18 "Therefore just as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all, so one man’s act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all. For just as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous. "

20 “But law came in, with the result that the trespass multiplied, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that just as sin exercised dominion in death, so grace might also exercise dominion through justification leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

What does it mean to be tempted?