yep, Russia tried to join, but they wanted special treatment. If NATO were expansionist theyâd have let them. Big.big big expansion. all the way to the pacific
$196B. The Great Zelensky himself.
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Amazing.
pfft⌠I could care less about what anyone says about it. Facts are what they are. to date, less than 30B delivered, the rest is promises
isnât that what expansionists do⌠expand? If expansion was the plan, whyâd they say no to Russia?
You fee fee you know more about it than The Ukranian George Washington?
Think.
The whole âŚwe wonât be involved in anything anywhere unless the territorial US is actually being attacked âŚis profoundly silly.
And obviously not real. Yâall have a line.
you fee fee different math?
Why is it silly? Shouldnât we be more like the Nordic countries?
about what. if NATO is expansionist they had the opportunity for a grand expansion⌠yet turned it down.
here are the facts. any european nation can apply for membership. after applying they have to meet certain criterea, then they may get an accession vote which is not guarenteed and must be unanimous. they donât come after you, you come to them. pretty piss poor formulae for expansionism.
About the history of NATO, but more importantly, the EU.
Because youâll change your mind when you want. It will be in the âAmerican interestâ to intervene.
the eu is expansionist. I have no love for it. in time, it will be our greatest enemy.
Sure. What interest does âAmericaâ have in Ukraine?
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NATO is the military arm of the EU. If Ukraine ends up the way you want it to, it will immediately join both and you will applaud like a circus seal.
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Ok thanks. Later
Why are you evading the question?
By that logic, Confederates bravely fought for âtheirâ survival in the Civil War, and Germans fought for âtheirâ survival in WW1 and WW2.
Survival of a government is not the same as the survival of its citizens.
