Venezuela oil production in free fall

They have exactly the same goals.

Their plight is a direct result of the form of gov’t they have and those occupying the positions of power so it is completely relevant.

Yes those free market European liberal with their nationalized industry, unions, and nationalized healthcare.

So, ignoring their plight helps them?

You can be a socialist and not be a corrupt dictator,
You can be a free market capitalist be a corrupt dictator.

If you could explain, it you would…

No, socialism fails so to keep it in place you need more and more tyranny.

again how is socialist Norway doing.

Oh do they. LIBERALS HERE ON THIS FORUM…answer this…are you opposed to capitalism…or do you view capitalism as a means or a tool to lift the poor out of poverty. And for those of you who are leftists on this forum…What is your take on the capitalism???

Or what about this? Liberals do you believe in the US as a nation state? What about you leftists?

israel is socialist…

Liberals Defend Free Speech…the left moves to obliterate it. Liberals have always said I dislike what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Leftist believe if your opinion is directly opposed to what the left believes, your speech should be censored.

Big difference.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely and always has.

Norway has thriving free markets.

Hi. Resident commie here to remind everyone that Allende’s nation had bare shelves in the supermarket for a year, as soon as he was removed the food and toilet paper magically appeared on the shelves.

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How are England, Denmark and Norway doing with their oil reserves. You’re always calling them socialist.

Another difference CRATIC is that Nancy Pelosi ( and I can’t believe I am using her as an example, but it is appropriate one. As conservatives hate her) believes in capitalism. The US is a capitalistic country and she is all for that. Bernie Sanders is not for capitalism. He is a socialist…or democratic socialist if it softens the blow. Who is more representative of the democrat party? Pelosi or Sanders. You would have to say Pelosi as most Democrats are decidedly Liberal…Not Socialist…and another word for socialist class is what? Class…anyone…anyone. Leftist. Another word for socialist is leftist.

Now does anyone have any questions about the differences between liberalism and socialism? I hope I gave enough explanation to my friend CRATIC as it was stated that if I knew the differences…I’d explain them. So maybe not all the differences…but some strong ones anyway.

Did somebody say Venezuela?

People are suffering in many places.

Are you concerned about suffering people outside of Venezuela?

Cratic only cares about Venezuela and Libya. But he actually doesn’t care about either. They’re talking points.

This is what radical LW politics gets you. Venezuela. DEMs say that’s not what they are looking for, but they fail to realize that is exactly what their policies will get them.