USAToday: 450 arrested in immigration raid at Hyundai plant site in Georgia

Ice has had a warrant at every business they’ve raided

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Hey, the illegals are only doing jobs americans refuse to do. Nothing to see here.

Future democrat voters, nothing to see here

It was a mix of illegal aliens from various nationalities the subcontractors are equal opportunity

We don’t know their are 450 people here illegally yet.

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Jobs Americans won’t do. That sounds better than the reality. Americans won’t work like pack mules for low pay and poor working conditions.

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Businesses, sure. But not for every person they’ve nabbed.

Feds with a warrant raid a meth lab
– they arrest everyone working there (don’t need to go back and get a warrant for each one.)

Feds with a warrant raid an illegal gun operation
– they arrest everyone working there (don’t need to go back and get a warrant for each one.)

Feds with a warrant a brothel, or illegal casion etc.
– they arrest everyone working there (don’t need to go back and get a warrant for each one.)

Feds with a warrant raid a illegal worksite
– Left tears its hair out

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you don’t need a warrant to detain an illegal alien.

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That is relative and depends on perspective.

Can you name a successful society in history that didn’t have people who would?

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Not even businesses. They routinely enter private property without warrants.

The contractors who bid their respective parts of the construction using LEGAL employees at market-rate pay lost out to contractors who could under-bid because their manpower costs (and likely OSHA-driven overhead) is cheaper.

Those losing contractors have employees who WILL do the jobs, right now, today, as do employers in every other segment of our economy.

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That didn’t have people that worked like pack mules for little pay? I have no idea. I was just going by what I’ve seen change. Not agriculture, but I see multiple jobs today that illegals weren’t doing in the 80s and 90s. Everything was fine until they found cheaper labor.

Things weren’t really expensive. Things certainly didn’t get cheaper as a result of cheap labor.

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Correct
This chart shows food-at-home vs overall inflation.

Since 1985 or so food-at-home rose/fell the same as everything else. Nothing we have done sonce 1985 (more legal or illegal farm labor, ag subsidies, prettier tractors etc) has made food cheap relative to other things.

When did the bar codes become standard at all supermarkets, late 80s? Before them, a cashier would have to type in every price. You’d have 14-20 cashiers working a day shift. Bar codes cut that down by roughly half. But I don’t remember prices dropping.

Now we have self check out lanes and 1 cashier, 2 tops. Prices didn’t drop. Not noticeably. They will most definitely go up if they had to reverse what was done.

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One thing that -might- have happened (and I am just guessing here):

Inflation is never a completely apples-to-apples comparison.
If it were, then the theoreticla “market basket” BLS uses would still include buggy whips, roatary phones and 8-track tapes.

So it -might- be that Americans are now buying more prepared foods
pre-breaded chicken nuggets, pre cut french fries, sports drinks and bottled water and that change is why food-at-home has not gotten cheaper.

I dunno, just guessing.

That’s a solid argument. I’m guessing they do. But even though they are more expensive than their raw counterparts, they are still a lot cheaper than eating out. But I do believe people are buying a lot more of that, because a lot more of it is available.

Then what excuse is there for landscaping, roofing, and hotel help? Similar argument. The 70s, 80s, early 90s, mostly blacks and whites working those jobs. My opinion is, if people are paying for any service or product, no amount of cost reduction in the workforce will change prices. But the opposite is never true.

I am not sure any excuse will be found.
Over the years, the decison makers have flooded the low-inocme labor market with low-income labor
and, no surprise
wages in the low-income labor market have not kept up with everyone else’s.

You missunderstand me. I’m fine will all these folks getting rounded up because they had a warrant for the property.

I’m talking about the people they are rounding up during traffic stops and Home Depot drive bye etc…

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Okay.
and I could probably concur about the routine traffic stops.

I think the Home Depot stuff is fine though.