Ukraine/Russia Peace Countdown

He siad he would end it in 24 hours.

That’s not parsing.

You just accept that he says crazy things. Why? And stop doing the whole I like libs frothing ■■■■■■■■■ What the ■■■■ do you get out of this? If it’s posting camel photos and pretending to laugh at everyone and claiming they’re obsessed while you post all day about them? It makes no sense. You’re spending more time mocking people than they are posting. That’s a loser. So what’s the point? I care about Ukraine policy. There’s a new president coming in. I don’t know what he’s going to do. I want to discuss that. You post camels.

No one is saying that. But much of that is gross exaggeration, as it is with most candidates.

For instance, Trump makes grandiose exaggerated claims about the border. Reasonable people would know that he has no chance of carrying his border policies out as rapidly as he would like. What it does is tell us that border security will be a big priority in his administration.

In other words, he can lie and his followers are cool with it AND they expect everyone else to be.

That’s ridiculous. Trump says crazy things about everything. So it’s all a priority?

Trump is Trump. One can either accept him for who he is, or they can drive themselves crazy trying to make him into something he is not.

It is obvious where each of us stands on this one. :wink:

If he mentioned it, then it is on his radar. If he mentions it frequently, it is likely a priority.

Yes. Some want to talk and some troll.

Indeed. Remember, not a cult.

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So Harris should have just promised to end the war in 12 hours. Maybe she would have won.

This is part of the trump mystique, and one reason why people compare his movement to a cult.

No other politicians statements have such a cake and eat it to protection…when he’s saying them, it’s proof that he’s an effective leader who will get things done. After he’s won, he’s not expected to live up to those statements because they are so exaggerated…

I guess all you have to do to win the MAGA vote is exaggerate.

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If you want to talk policy, then let’s go at it. If you want to talk about Trump’s behavior, then you get the camel.

It’s Schrodengers cat…the statements are true when arguing against liberals (Harris never claimed to be able to end the war in 24 hours, they’re for, trump is better for the job) and false when he’s expected to follow through (now he is president, how could he possibly do it?)

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How do you reckon trump conveys his policy? ESP?

It’s beyond utterly stupid to claim that discussing what the future POTUS has promised us he will do is somehow lathering.

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I’m worried that Trump will stop military support to Ukraine. And I’m frustrated by Trump supporters who think that if Russia won’t negotiate we will “flood” Ukraine with weapons. There is no “flood”. There are only so many ATACMS and long range weapons we can give. And other stuff takes time to train. We can increase aid but there is no spigot that we’re holding back.

There are a multitude of Ukraine threads you could tap into. This is a Trump bashing thread. You clearly stated as much in your OP.

If you were really interested in discussing what Ukraine policy might look like under Trump, you would not have started this ridiculous countdown thread.

Why…Are we depleted?

then you paid no attention his first term

not much complex about it. Ukraine is doing what they need to to continue aid until talks start. If Russia comes into talks, eventually, peace will be had that neither side particularly likes. it will last as long as Trump is President, and not much longer. If Russia stands on its statements about whats needed to start talks, Trump will threaten flooding the zone. the only question is… will he follow through? If he does, Ukraine wins. If he doesn’t the war will continue at lower intensity.

I acturally interviewed them for my third camel, but I settled on George.