Tyson Foods closing processing plant in Kansas after other recent facility closures

Definitely agree on that one. The difference between grass-fed/finished ribeye and grain-fed is incredible. I’m starting my annual keto run this week, and when I’m in ketosis for some reason I’m completely repulsed by white meat in general.

Chicken used to be my favorite meat on earth. I didn’t even like having sauces or gravy with it, just the meat. These days, it all tastes like popsicle sticks to me.

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Bro that would probably drive me insane. As everyone knows, people of color and the chicken are quite fond of one another.

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Ironically enough, early humans evolving on the coastal plains of Africa would have primarily subsisted on red meat, tree fruits, bush berries, tubers (on the plains), and ocean fish, oysters, clams (on the ocean), etc…

All of which, we’re capable of eating raw, unlike chicken and pork, unlike fresh water fish, bottom-feeders like shrimp and crab, etc… :thinking:

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Couldn’t happen to nicer company…

I almost certainly would have purchased them if I saw them. Sometimes supermarkets don’t carry every product. I’ll assume they are actual chicken nuggets. Not like that spongy crap McDonald’s offers. I don’t know what is in that.

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Oh it’s real chicken trust me. They are shockingly good.

I’m sure that’s part of it. But in the link Nemesis provided in post #2 it says this.

"Do I have enough labor to run that plant as efficiently as possible?’ And I think in many cases, the answer is ‘no,’” says Brown.

I’ll have to look for them. That’s right in my wheelhouse. Poppers, wings, mozz sticks, pizza bagels, cheeseburgers, cheese steaks, anything in that area.

On cheese steaks. I find it fascinating that real thin cut steaks are not much more expensive than the frozen Steak ums. But 100 times better. About 2 dollars more for a dozen.

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How is that possible? We have just allowed millions to cross the border. There should be no shortage of labor.

They’re not going to work unless they have to.

Yes, I know. lol

This is just rather awkward for some people right now I would think.

Why would Tyson employ illegal immigrants?

Yes, strictly speaking it said that. But what you’ve done here is kinda like cherry picking.
The sentence before reads:

As structural changes accelerate, economists say labor is another pain point today for both pork and poultry.

Clearly the article is stating that “structural changes” are the main point and “tight labor market” is just one more added thing. The "structural changes that are the article’s main point is that . . . . (drumroll) . . . . adjusted for inflation, pork consumption is down 12% since pre-pandemic (Jan 2020.) And the article blames that on inflation.

Far below I have repasted a big part of what the article says for your convenience. (In case there is any doubt I am speaking the truth
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“My data through June shows poor prices are down 5% compared to June of last year,” says Shulz. “But when we adjust for inflation, it’s even worse. Pork Prices are down 8% compared to the same time last year when you adjust for inflation.”

Even on a national level, the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers shows retail pork and poultry prices are also lower than a year ago, a sign of inflation impacts on shoppers.

“We’ve had at least a 10% pullback in most of those categories, and particularly the chicken and the pork complex,” says Glynn Tonsor, a livestock economist with Kansas State University. “Why is that? It’s certainly not because costs of production have changed a lot. They’re still elevated, but consumer buying power has been squeezed.” . . .

https://www.agweb.com/news/livestock/pork/its-starting-why-recent-processing-plant-farm-closures-signal-major-consolidation-now-underway-pork-and-poultry

So I asked Copilot
“Including breakfast, ham sandwiches, hotdogs, dinners, and everything else on average, how many portions of pork do Americans eat per week?”

First it provided me with data from 2005, but then, after I prodded it gave me a link to a nice usda.gov website and told me

“Based on the most recent data from the USDA Economic Research Service (ERS), Americans consume approximately 47.5 pounds of pork per person annually, which translates to about 0.91 pounds (or roughly 1 pound) per week.”

Apparently (Fred website) on an inflation-adjusted basis American are consuming 12% less pork thatn we did in Jan 2020, just before the pandemic. The article provded by @Nemesis blames that primarily on"strucutral changes" and at great length explains those changes are primarily “consmers being pinched by inflation.”

I don’t disagree with you. You might have misunderstood what I was doing. I wasn’t trying to say staffing is the reason plants are closing down. Clearly it goes beyond that, as you’ve pointed out. I was cherry picking that one item as a stand alone issue because that’s the one area they have direct control over. They have no control over the consumers.

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Yeah the market has been freaking out about the downward trend of Americans consuming pork for years now.

Which is insane. Come on. Is there anything more American than a fried pork chop?

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Pork is the most conumed meat in the world.
Some Americans eat bacon or ham or sausage every morning at breakfast, eat ham or bologna or salami (or hotdogs) at lunch,
but because they never eat pork at dinner they sometimes think “We don’t eat much pork in my house. We love beef!”

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When I eventually die I’m pretty sure they will be able to tie it to my consumption of pork chops.

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Sidenote:
12% of Americans consume half the beef consumed in the US.
(apparently @SixFoot and his friends don’t like to share.)

Disproportionate beef diets were consumed by 12% of individuals, but accounted for half of all beef consumed.

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It’s all the Texans, probably.

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