Twelve scientist who question the response of governments to Covid19

People in the control group survived because the virus doesn’t kill most people. Especially in a group of people who weren’t all elderly or didn’t all have pre-existing conditions.

If you pick a random group of 20 people and everyone in that group is infected, there’s a strong chance that no one in that group dies simply by being given non-targeted medical treatment.

Without a large control trial it’s very difficult to say that it would dramatically reduce the death rate.

The government is mostly allowing their usage because they are considered relatively safe drugs. Not because their effectiveness is well established.

So you in fact did not read the study.

All of these patients were severely or crtically ill hospitalized patients with severe acute respiratory syndrome from covid-19.

These were not random patients they were very sick people when the trial began.

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dude, the science here is clear.

“3). At day6 post-inclusion, 100% of patients
treated with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin combination were virologicaly cured
comparing with 57.1% in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine only, and 12.5% in the
control group”

and the one who died was excluded for 2 reasons.

  1. didn’t finish the study
  2. “one patient died on day3 post inclusion and was PCR-negative on day2;”
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Good catch I missed that

So even the one fatality was “cured”, but was already too far gone to save.

Thank you

Post the actual control group comparisons and not this evangelist nonsense.

Sure let’s start with the fact that you never actually read the study.

That’s quite obvious now.

not only that, but the average age of patients taking the drugs was 51, while the average of the control group was 37. At 37, the virus ain’t that bad.

So we’ve now established you are both anti-science and anti-religion and didn’t read the study!!!

Damn I’m having a great morning!

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Try to have a discussion without resorting to the words “racist” or “conspiracy” to dismiss the other persons position.

There is a globalist agenda to establish a single over-arching world government. That is indisputable. They have strategies to move the world in that direction. There is a populist nationalist agenda to resist and replace the globalist model. That is also obvious. We are seeing that struggle played out. It’s not a conspiracy any more. It’s out in plain sight.

I commented above that I was looking at the study after you brought it up. I know this is the internet, but you don’t have to pretend that you’ve been studying this for months :rofl:

I pointed out that while it showed promising results, it hasn’t been proven to lower the mortality rate and that point still stands.

I’m not pretending anything.

This study was only released on March 9th. Of course if you could read the damned study you’d know that!!!

So where did I say “I read that study a long time ago”…? I mentioned that I was looking at it and I didn’t see anything suggesting it was a miracle cure like you were suggesting.

It reduced the recovery time of some of the patients and it shows promise. However, even the control group survived and a couple even got “cured” in the same time frame.

yes, because the mortality rate between those who are virus free after 6 days would be exactly the same as those who still have it… doh!

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Please show me saying anything about “a long time ago”…?

I mean, what you are describing is a conspiracy and a theory … so I don’t know why those words shouldn’t be used.

You think healthcare professionals all around the world are operatives in this globalist agenda?

No. Why would you think that?

The study isn’t large enough for us to know if there are other caveats. We can say that the people in that study recovered faster on average than people in the control group.

Remember, I never said that the treatment isn’t effective. I just said it hasn’t been tested extensively enough to come to your conclusions.

No we can quote the article and say that they were actually cured.

they’re not my conclusions. they are the conclusions of the scientists who ran the study

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You are the one making it seem that I some how claimed to have known everything about the study while I was openly inquiring about what studies you were referring to and specifically said that I was looking at one of them.

I still haven’t found the one where you said it had 80 patients?