Turkey has reportedly asked to join BRICS: What are the implications for NATO and Israel?

Bloomberg reported that Turkey has formally applied to join BRICS.

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Back in June, the Turkish foreign minister publicly stated Turkey’s interest in BRICS. Russia supported the move:


https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-welcomes-turkeys-reported-desire-join-brics-2024-06-04/

Turkey has the largest armed forces in NATO after the US. Should Turkey joining BRICS mean an end to Turkey’s membership in NATO?

Turkey has the largest and best-equipped military in the Middle East, and Turkish public opinion strongly supports Palestinians in the Israeli-Gaza conflict. President Erdogan has been expressing opposition to the Israeli invasion of Gaza and recently threatened to enter the war in support of the Palestinians. Is Israel headed towards a war with an alliance that includes both Turkey and Iran?


Public Opinion and Reaction to Israel’s War on Gaza after October 7 in Türkiye, Articles Zeynep Burcu Uğur, Ömer Demir, İbrahim Dalmış | Insight Turkey


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/turkeys-erdogan-issues-open-threat-to-invade-israel/

Technically they should have been expelled from NATO decades ago. But they control the straits and NATO always wanted to keep that in their sphere for strategic reasons.

As for joining Brics, that’s primarily economic. But there is a military component that is developing. Unless they exclude themselves from the military component of Brics, they should be expelled from NATO. Can’t be a member of two different military alliances. After all there’s not CSTO members in NATO and vice versa.

I suspect that Erdogan may end up following de Gaulle’s example from 1967. France did not formally leave the alliance, but instead it is expelled NATO military forces and removed its forces from NATO control.

“France is determined to regain on her whole territory the full exercise of her sovereignty,” wrote French President Charles de Gaulle. The country intended to stop putting its military forces at NATO’s disposal and intended to kick NATO military forces—and those of NATO members—off of its land.

In short, de Gaulle had just done the unthinkable: pulled the plug on a crucial part of NATO.
When France Pulled the Plug on a Crucial Part of NATO | HISTORY

Of course, the US had a history of alleged connections with coup attempts and assassinations attempts against de Gaule. A similar situation with Erdogan is likely to intensify.


https://www.reuters.com/article/world/middle-east/turkish-minister-says-us-behind-2016-failed-coup-hurriyet-idUSKBN2A41NE/

Kick 'em out.

They’re bad medicine for NATO, and have been so since they were let in.

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The US can close its bases and end military sales to Turkey, but there is no mechanism within the NATO treaty for expelling members although Turkey could withdraw from the treaty.

It would be nice but I don’t think anyone wants to give the Russians exclusive access to the Straits.

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Nothing should happen. BRICS is not a military alliance, the EU won’t let Turkey in, so they’re going for the runner up.

Iran is a member of BRICS, and Turkey has been moving closer Iran since the invasion of Gaza.

The US is between a rock and hard place in dealing with Turkey. Time for another coup attempt?

your Russian propaganda does not impress me. Turkey joining BRICS is nothing. BRICS is nothing. A basket full of worthless currencies does not enhance the basket.

Yes, BRICS is the European Economic Community 2.0. A loose association of sovereign nations for the purpose of promoting trade and commerce.

On the other hand, NATO has become the Warsaw pact 2.0 with its own version of the Brezhnev doctrine.

It is like the Hotel California, “you can check out any time you want but you can never leave”. Ask the people in Slovakia, Hungary, and Serbia if you doubt that.

Is it just coincidence that a reported assault on US marines in Izmir came immediately after the news about Turkey’s application to BRICS?


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/02/politics/us-marines-turkey-assault/index.html

That’s basically every military alliance. They don’t want you to leave. Russia threw a huge fit when Ukraine and Georgia both withdrew from the CIS since Russia was violating their sovereignty (especially so in Georgia’s case).

Yes, Georgia’s foreign agent registration law is an assault to democracy and freedom, but the US foreign agent registration law is defending democracy and freedom.

The freedom of US-government-funded NGOs to instigate color revolutions is a sacred under the rules-based world order. On the other hand, African-American socialists accepting reimbursement for travel to Russia is a threat to national security worthy of felony charges.

I was talking about when Russia rolled T-80s over their border and launched air strikes on Georgian military bases with Sukhois. Not whatever that is.

Yes, only the US and its allies are allowed to invade countries with impunity in the name of supporting separatists.

US troops are still in Kosovo to protect the ethnic Albanians after the 1999 NATO bombing campaign of Serbia. They are still in Syria and Iraq to support the Kurds after the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

I disagree with us doing that unless said country has attacked us first. What we did in Iraq was some ■■■■■■■■ because Saddam was many things but he had not attacked us or any of our allies since 1991.

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absolutely. I am an American. I’m not a Russian, and I don’t give two ■■■■■ what Putin thinks about it.

What we did in Iraq was bring AQ to the battlefield of our choosing. It worked brilliantly.

That’s what it became but that’s not how Bush and Rumsfeld sold it to everyone.

Things are still heating up at the US warship in Turkey: