This is nonsense. Once Carter Page became a subject of an investigation then ALL of his work production DURING his time in the campaign was available for the FBI to look at - regardless of where that led them - and in addition, ANY contacts that he made during the campaign and even AFTER his time on the campaign could be listened to. The idea that they just were restricted to Carter Page and only his post-campaign info is a LIE.
It is perfectly LEGAL to get information from ANY SOURCE at any time. If it was against the law then any reporter who ever quoted a foreigner in a press story about any candidate would be in violation of the law.
Ever see a reporter go to jail for quoting a foreigner regarding a candidate??
This is STILL the United States with a 1st Amendment and the FEC cannot write a campaign law that restricts information - from ANY source.
AGAIN, the Clinton campaign got information from Ukraine and they USED IT. See anyone go to jail or get a fine???
Of course he loved it! He was told he was going to get the work production from the Russian State Prosecutor - not some unknown and unaccountable spy in the night, making allegations without proof. (like the dossier) This was legitimate proof of crime committed by the Clintons in Russia, or so he was told.
Since when is legitimate proof of crimes committed by a candidate while they were overseas NOT fair game in any election???
Would YOU as a voter NOT want to see that about any candidate?
Whether or not it âinfluencedâ an election is immaterial. I would HOPE that legitimate proof of wrong-doing about a candidate and provided by a state prosecutor would influence an election. If it doesnât then the electorate are idiots.
What you want to allege is that Don was offered something illegitimate. He was NOT and no one has made that claim.
Youâre a riot. No, it is not equally logical as far as possibilities go that Martians spoiled the meeting, as compared to the possibility that the Russian agent was paid to provide damning information on Trumpâs opponent. And yes, I noted that it is speculation and not fact, unlike the poster I was replying to. A solid C- for effort on this one brother.
Do what? You seriously believe that a warrant will somehow allow investigators to review the content and information from a call placed prior to the warrantâs approval? Where is the content of all of these calls made from every single living human being on the planet stored? And how long are they stored? Indefinitely?
No, the only lie here is the one being promoted by people claiming that the Trump campaign was spied on. Reality simply disputes this absurdity.
Absolutely. The warrant is based on the suspicion that Page did something illegal in the past - NOT that he might do it in the future. Once they have the warrant they are FREE to look into his past - including his time on the campaign - and they are also free to monitor him in the future - including any calls he may make to buddies on the campaign.
We know that in fact they monitored a call he had with Steve Bannon - AFTER Page left the campaign.
So is this an admission that they could not actually go back and listen to calls placed prior to the warrant being granted? As you claimed previously?
And obviously they could monitor his activity once the warrant was approved. But by both the Trump campaignâs admission and Pageâs admission, once he left the campaign, he was no longer associated with it.
As for his call with Bannon, yes Page admitted to Congress that he spoke with Bannon about Russia in January, and likely that call would have been monitored. That hardly equates to the widely debunked lie that the Trump Campaign was spied on. Nice try though.
How do you listen to calls that were placed before you get your warrant? They are GONE.
What I said was that that once they had the warrant they could look at anything he did during his time on the campaign, so this nonsense that the campaign wouldnât be a part of their investigation is garbage. It will be a vital part of their investigation.
I also said that they could listen to any calls he made going forward, and he DID MAKE calls to his former teammates on the campaign.
There is NO POINT in going after Carter Page, whom everyone agrees was completely innocuous. The whole point was that he was in the campaign so everything he did with the campaign was now able to be looked at and wherever that led them they could go, because hey, Carter Page was there, wasnât he?
When did everyone get together and agree Page was completely innocuous? I didnât agree to that.
And obviously they arenât able to look at everything he did on the campaign, since as you pointed out a lot of information, such as phone calls, are gone.
Great. When the HUGE NEWS about Page comes out, completely blowing everyone in the country into the weeds, Iâll apologize. In the mean time, I will laugh my ass off at anyone who think Carter Page was in any way important to anyone.
Even the Dems on both committees donât buy that. Notice they donât talk about him, anymore. Notice also that Robert Mueller has NOT indicted him or even questioned him. The FBI told him long ago, nothing to see here. Move on.
Carter Page is significant only for one reason: The FBI misused the FISA warrant application process to get a warrant on him so they could go swanning off into the Trump Campaign via Carter Page. He was the LEAST problematic, in their minds, and one that they could fool a judge over.
I dunno Man, paying a Skank $130K for anything is questionable to me. I just dont know if the person who would do such a thing is rational in their decision making process.
