Trump prepares EO to close down the unconstitutional federal department of education

Instead of a meme… show me where the feds are responsible for lil Wu Wei reading abilities (or lack thereof)

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Money comes out of goodness of heart, not with strings attached to agendas. :clown_face:

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This is directly from the ed.gov site

“No provision of a program administered by the Secretary or by any other officer of the Department shall be construed to authorize the Secretary or any such officer to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the curriculum, program of instruction, administration, or personnel of any educational institution, school, or school system, over any accrediting agency or association, or over the selection or content of library resources, textbooks, or other instructional materials by any educational institution or school system, except to the extent authorized by law. (Section 103[b], Public Law 96-88)

Thus, the Department does not

establish schools and colleges;
develop curricula;
set requirements for enrollment and graduation;
determine state education standards; or
develop or implement testing to measure whether states are meeting their education standards.*”

Believe them. They count on you.

marx useful idiots

It’s law. Texas education I tell ya :rofl:

McDonald’s.

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At some level I have a problem with the whole “kill them all and let God sort it out” approach that Trump is taking. But the way I see it, any good negotiator will overreach at first, and then back off to look like he compromised.

Great. Close DOE. How will all the money that is currently being collected by federal taxation (only for it to be given back … eventually) be allocated back to the states? Just one big check? Or will fedgov stop collecting those taxes and let the states collect it themselves? (That’s how it should be, in my opinion.)

And what of the student loan program(s) that fedgov snatched up with the passage of ObamaCare? In my book, they don’t belong under the fedgov purview. Do the original commercial and private programs that were ended when the fedgov usurped the loan business get reinstated? Or are we just going to leave 75% of students dangling without loan programs? (Personally, I would like to see all loans come from the schools that the students are attending. Let the educational institutions stand behind the value of their degrees. But that can’t be implemented overnight.)

So in my book, a cold-turkey shutdown will produce chaos.

You imply without federal funding, student loan programs don’t or won’t exist.

Johnson’s “great society” has encouraged the cost of college tuition to skyrocket out of control.

Closing down the federal department of education would remove a destructive element in America’s educational system.

BTW are you aware of current state-financed student loan programs?

Not exactly. What I’m saying is that it’s the go-to program today. Most students who get student loans do so through the federal programs.

I’m looking for a softer landing than a cold-turkey shutdown would create.

As usual, Libs are misinformed hypocrites. To claim the Federal government can’t influence schools ( and by influence I mean force) to include or exclude courses or curriculum and withhold funds from schools that don’t comply is a flat out lie. In 2023 The Biden administration said funding will be withheld from any school that has hunting or archery programs. The threat of withholding funding from schools is s defacto way of creating or excluding courses and/or curriculum that the federal government wants.

Our public education system is abysmal. We spend more per student than most, if not all, countries in the world and yet every year millions of kids are given a diploma when they still can’t read or do basic math. And this decline has gotten worse, not better, since the Dept of education was created in 1979. It’s time for it to go…It’s no wonder we need to import engineers and other high skilled jobs from Asia. Maybe our department of uneducation should look at how other countries educate their kids…

And while Trump is improving our education system by getting the federal government out of education, he needs to complete the process by breaking the back of the teachers union! That’s a horrible organization led by a vile, despicable radical leftist human being. The irreparable harm they did to our kids during covid shows clearly that their priority is not teaching kids and preparing them to think and make it in the world. Like every other leftist group, they do nothing of value to society. Every vestige of Libism needs to be removed from government and anything whatsoever that has influence over our kids all the more!

Go Donald! Keep Trumping!!!

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There would be no “cold turkey”. Existing state-financed student loan programs are there for a soft landing.

Federalism, our Constitution’s plan.

Where in the Constitution has Congress been granted a power to tax and spend for State public school systems? I find no such authorization beneath Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1, for which Congress is granted power to lay and collect taxes.

The states set the curriculum.
The states set teacher pay.
The states hire teachers

If Alabama has crappy education numbers… BLAME THE STATE GOVERNMENT.

It’s clear the dept of education has failed.

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Failed in what ways? Not curriculum. Not teacher pay. Not hiring teachers.

And all you’ll find out the worst education systems in the south are in Dem run counties. Along with the poverty. But the poverty claims are based on the federal poverty line which does not take into account the local economy. In the south you can buy homes for under 200K. Unlike Cal.

Cost of living is why Cal and NY actually have the most poverty.

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Not even close to being true.

The Nation’s Report Card, which assesses how American students are performing in various subjects, showed seven out of 10 fourth graders are not proficient readers, which is a worse score than the last report card in 2022.

Link

The kids can’t read.

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