Precisely.
It is all orchestrated propaganda.
Greta Susterin pointed out the deception in the so called indictment.
Precisely.
It is all orchestrated propaganda.
Greta Susterin pointed out the deception in the so called indictment.
Biden cooperated fullyâŚafter stealing the documents (a Senator had no authorization to take them) and hiding them for eighteen years. He just tried to sneak them back in the archives unnoticed after this had become an issue with Trump.
If the Biden administration could prosecute Trump for some things Biden didnât do, they could have also prosecuted Biden for some things Trump didnât do.
That is incorrect, âwillfullâ is a functional part of the language of the law that Trump was charged under which was 18USC793(e).
WW
Trump nor current GOP Candidate and former GOP VP were charged under 18USC793(f).
Trump is charged under 18USC793(e).
WW
toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Steel-W0LF:So you knew the law actually states negligence, omitted that, then claimed it didnât.
I was hoping that youâd fall into the obvious trap, and you did. Hereâs me giving you the same lesson 5 years ago:
I have read the statute - and it does no such thing. In fact, all of the sections of the Act aside from one mention specific intent.
As for the section youâre trying to use (the one that only requires âgross negligenceâ) - 18 USC 793(f) - thereâs a reason why no one in history has ever been convicted under it - itâs unconstitutional.
The Supreme Court ruled in Gorin v. United States that absent scienter (bad faith, knowledge of wrongdoing, intent), the Espionage Act would be unconstitutional, and therefore any conviction under it requires such intent.
You understand youâre still wrong, right?
And you understand that the law still says negligence, omitting it, and then denying it has a word that we canât call other people.
Steel-W0LF: toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
Of course they âhave groundsâ - theyâre not the Presidentâs to give away.
WorldWatcher: Steel-W0LF: toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
You get hired at a white shoe law firm and they allow you the use of a company car. You get fired . Are you allowed to give it away?
WorldWatcher: Steel-W0LF: toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
Irrelevant.
Trump isnât being charged for anything he did as President.
The records were in Trumps personal possession, therefore he didnât give them away while President.
WW
What does this guy know that the rest of us donât? Itâs nonsense. AND btw, I havenât heard any other Republicans candidates jumping to agree that he should be pardoned, have you?
Steel-W0LF: WorldWatcher: Steel-W0LF: toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
You get hired at a white shoe law firm and they allow you the use of a company car. You get fired . Are you allowed to give it away?
Letâs fixed your flawed analogy.
Youâre the CEO of a white shoe law firm and you give someone a carâŚ. Later after leaving the job does the recipient have to give it back?
Steel-W0LF: WorldWatcher: Steel-W0LF: toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
Irrelevant.
Trump isnât being charged for anything he did as President.
The records were in Trumps personal possession, therefore he didnât give them away while President.
WW
Sure he did. Himself. Which heâs authorized to do.
mobiusptc: Steel-W0LF: WorldWatcher: Steel-W0LF: toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
You get hired at a white shoe law firm and they allow you the use of a company car. You get fired . Are you allowed to give it away?
Letâs fixed your flawed analogy.
Youâre the CEO of a white shoe law firm and you give someone a carâŚ. Later after leaving the job does the recipient have to give it back?
your analogy sucks.
the âCEOâ does not own the car. the Company, the corporation owns the car. the CEO can allow others to use the car but he cannot, without approval of the company/stockholer/board of director give the car. and even if he does want to allow someone access to the car, the CEO must follow the proper procedure to allow the use like bylaws.
POTUS is not the CEO because there is no one higher or on par with the CEO. POTUS is supposed to be same level as Legislative and judicial AKA a dude who can be fired along with everyone else.
Letâs fixed your flawed analogy.
Youâre the CEO of a white shoe law firm and you give someone a carâŚ. Later after leaving the job does the recipient have to give it back?
Yes.
Thatâs how company cars work. Theyâre not gifts, theyâre owned by the company.
He admitted he had classified documents that were still classified and he showed them to others when he was an ex-president. He literally says on tape that he couldâve declassified them when president, but cannot now. Do you know what youâre defending?
Steel-W0LF: mobiusptc: Steel-W0LF: WorldWatcher: Steel-W0LF: toreyj01: Steel-W0LF:So hereâs the million dollar question:
A president could take classified documents and give them to a reporterâŚâŚ. After that president leaves office could that reporter be prosecuted?
The answer should obviously be ânoâ.
So why is a president giving himself documents being treated differently other than an election season political witch hunt?
Giving yourself something that doesnât belong to you is called stealing.
It does belong to the president. FYI.
Trump wasnât President when the government demanded the return of Presidential Records and Classified Documents, both of which were property of the United States Government.
WW
Irrelevant. He can give them away as president and the govt has no grounds to demand them back after the fact.
You get hired at a white shoe law firm and they allow you the use of a company car. You get fired . Are you allowed to give it away?
Letâs fixed your flawed analogy.
Youâre the CEO of a white shoe law firm and you give someone a carâŚ. Later after leaving the job does the recipient have to give it back?
your analogy sucks.
the âCEOâ does not own the car. the Company, the corporation owns the car. the CEO can allow others to use the car but he cannot, without approval of the company/stockholer/board of director give the car. and even if he does want to allow someone access to the car, the CEO must follow the proper procedure to allow the use like bylaws.POTUS is not the CEO because there is no one higher or on par with the CEO. POTUS is supposed to be same level as Legislative and judicial AKA a dude who can be fired along with everyone else.
Go read the laws on classified information.
When it comes to âSECRETâ the potus can do almost anything with it.
Senators (Biden), VPs (Biden and Pence), and Sec States (Clinton) however cannot do as they please with classified information. Not even take it home, let alone give it away or destroy it.
Go read the laws on classified information.
When it comes to âSECRETâ the potus can do almost anything with it.
Senators (Biden), VPs (Biden and Pence), and Sec States (Clinton) however cannot do as they please with classified information. Not even take it home, let alone give it away or destroy it.
not when it comes to nuclear information, and not when the president gets kicked out of office. the documents are not HIS anymore then air force one callsign is his, the oval office is his, the US seal is his.
the president is a temporary custodian .
Steel-W0LF:Go read the laws on classified information.
When it comes to âSECRETâ the potus can do almost anything with it.
Senators (Biden), VPs (Biden and Pence), and Sec States (Clinton) however cannot do as they please with classified information. Not even take it home, let alone give it away or destroy it.
not when it comes to nuclear information, and not when the president gets kicked out of office. the documents are not HIS anymore then air force one callsign is his, the oval office is his, the US seal is his.
the president is a temporary custodian .
Youâll have to link to the nuclear information claim, since itâs your claim, source it.
As to the restâŚ. No. Thatâs not the way it works. If the president says âyou can have this informationâŚâ itâs yours and no longer classified.
Sure he did. Himself. Which heâs authorized to do.
And again, not what Trump is being charged with.