Yes, Lee was flawed, yes, Lee fought for the wrong side, yes, Lee was defending a slave state. But your judgement of him is based on today’s standards.
He, and his statues belong in museums, not on public land, but he was not a traitor as you define it, and he was not an evil man. In the context of his times, the United States was not a singular. Please keep that in mind.
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That’s right. The CSA was an independent nation.
Sure. Lincoln never actually said any of what he actually said. You run with that.
Unless their name is John Sidney McCain…
The leaders of what used to be the CSA were also told they could leave the Union whenever they wanted, in order to get them to sign on to being members of it. When they found the Union (translation: Central Government) was in breach of that contract, they wanted to dissolve it, just as they had been promised they could, only to find out the Union (Again: Central Government) reneged on the deal.
We flew one national flag and fought as a country against other countries. The CSA fought against the USofA and they slaughtered our soldiers any way they could.
All in the name of being able to continue buying and selling babies and adult workers.
Isn’t it odd that we will send our army all over the world to fight for people’s right to self governance, yet when it’s within our borders it’s “nope, you don’t have the “right” to do that…”?
FDR was great at kicking the Constitution to the curb and instituting Arbitrary government (in place of governance by constitutional means): so frankly I never buy any rancor of the Left over betrayals or traitors. Especially since FDR pales compared to what y’all have become.
Yeah. Makes me question if the right side won the war. Never mind that blacks weren’t even considered people by the Central Government until AFTER the civil war. Convenient, huh?
All these decades later and some people are still siding with the part of the country that fought to continue enslaving people and buying and selling women like livestock.
It makes you wonder if we progressed at all. Hell, it kind of reminds me of some current Middle Eastern Muslim countries.
Which side did he defend again?
U.S - Good guys
Confederate - Bad guys.
He was an American that turned to the Confederate side.
Yes, bad man 100%.
I am not even sure what you are arguing.
The Confederacy said that they could leave… the Union said that they couldn’t.
The Confederacy lost that debate.
Lincoln didn’t change a thing.
It’s not even a mystery why your side continues to make the civil war about slavery even though slavery wasn’t an issue back then. Much like collusion wasn’t really an issue in 2016. It’s all about the narrative.
Well when you have folks who question if the right side won the war…
Yes, you are wrong.
One cannot betray a country unless he owes allegiance to that country.
Lee (along with every other Confederate) had renounced U.S. citizenship and had given an oath of allegiance to the C.S.A. Their secession had been legal and constitutional.
President Andrew Johnson wanted to try Jefferson Davis for treason. He was advised by his AG that the Confederates had not committed treason.
At the time, the United States was not seen as a single country the way it is now. It was seen as a confederation of independent states. That was the context of the time.
That is not a defense of slavery, it is however a statement of fact. Loyalties were to one’s state.
From the CSA’s perspective, they fought for their rights and their independence.
Slavery wasn’t an issue back then?
Okay… we got a live on here people!
Lincoln was afraid if secession was allowed, democracy would fail. Unfortunately, it had already failed. And it’s been downhill ever since.
Well… they fought for their right to own human beings.
