“There’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians,” Rudy Giuliani

1940s nazi Germany knew this…and apparently we are them. I will continue to tune out.

Wait… are you talking about that prank call that was made to Schiff?

The one where Schiff says he would hand over the evidence to the FBI?

Funny thing about the Mueller report… did not see one instance of the Trump campaign talking about handing information over to the FBI for proper investigation.

Yet somehow… Schiff responding to a prank call is exactly the same as a months long concerted effort to obtain information from a foreign adversary that was only stymied by bad luck and incompetence.

Funny thing indeed.

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Schiff handed the evidence to the FBI.

He turned his back on Australia when he revoked his Australian citizenship; so yes I can blame the US for him.

For the record to explain his foreign interference in Australian politics. He owns major newspapers in 5 of our capital cities and 1 of our 2 territory capitals plus a number of regional papers. He also has Sky News (Australia) which can be considered a mini-Fox News. His newspapers particularly in our three biggest cities have campaigned incessantly and consistently for the Liberal/National Party government against the Australian Labor Party opposition.

Well… he sought after US citizenship so he could basically start FOX News.

I personally blame whatever you guys have in the water over there for Murdoch.

< as a side note… I am kidding>

You should pass the law we passed that caused Murdoch to renounce his Aussie citizenship and claim US citizenship.

Don’t let foreigners own your media.

I got the gist of the tone of your posts; but I am still as an Aussie washing my hands of Murdoch.

I understand that he needed to be an American citizen and I think Australia should exclude foreign nationals from having the type of influence that Murdoch exerts on Australian politics though his media outlets…

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We will need a change of government for that to occur. At the moment it looks like that will happen in mid-May.

Busted by Mueller. That’s a laugh. Where is the indictment and conviction of anyone for taking information from a Russian or even the Russian government?
Where is even the statement that someone committed a crime for taking information from a Russian?

Not technically illegal = legal

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And you would be right. Or at the least they would be partisan hacks.

If it was “my side” saying crazy ■■■■ like Rudy is I would distance myself as far as possible and really take a look at the those who represent my ideology.

Not sure why this doesn’t happen in the GOP.

It confounds and saddens me.

It really does.

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And where did this dossier get its information from? Either Steele made it up in his room or it came from Russians, some of whom were top echelon in the government to know anything about any of this…,if not directly from Putin.
If Trump had a dossier like this on Hillary don’t you think there would be a huge call to answer these questions…and to condemn Trump?

If Trump has gone the route of obtaining opposition research through a few levels of intermediaries that actually would have been okay.

I do love this comparison to a document that supposedly was crucial to the Clinton campaign but the public didn’t know about it until after the election.

That is really trying to square the circle there.

Bernie Sanders will soon save us, by driving his boots down the Russian Bears throat!!!

:pray: Thank you Saint Mueller and to the Gods of intersectionality and political correctness bless thee all.

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A system to do the same act but but have a scheme to hide that you were the source makes it ok? Haven’t you ever heard the phrase “follow the money”?
We didn’t know about the dossier…that doesn’t mean the people who paid for it didn’t know about it.
They were tricked by their own media into believing they had this election sewed up. Of course they didn’t use their hail Mary pass. There was always the chance it could come back to bite them…as it is doing now.

You said a mouthful there!

NO COLLUSION
NO OBSTRUCTION
COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXONERATION

BEST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF PROBABLY LIKE, EVER!

:ru::us::ru:

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So the dossier is bad simply because it exists not because it was used.

Interesting argument.

How would one apply that to activity of a campaign having myriad contacts with an adversarial foreign power to obtain stolen information but was unable to only because of bad luck and incompetence?

Does that rise to the same level that makes one so upset about the Steele Dossier?

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There it is. It’s alright if my side does it. And then the spin to defend. Your side has it’s share of crazies and you will defend them at every turn as long as they might get your side a little more power.
You seem to only have a problem with the crazy stuff and skirting the law stuff and lies when the other sides does it.
Me, I have wondered for a lot of years what happened to the party of JFK.
You all seem to have silenced that party and are going full steam ahead with socialism , green deal more government control candidates.
And this saddens me it really does. The blue dog democrats are almost extinct.

You will never see me defend the crazies.