The Trump budget is out

The budget has come out

An increase to defense spending to over a trillion

160b in non military cuts.

All the savings! All the debt reduction!

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Easily paid for with a few trillion in tax cuts and all that tariff revenue.

I oppose any increase in defense or police spending.

In fact, I probably oppose any increase in centgov spending.

“The Department of Homeland Security will get $43.8 billion more for the president’s mass deportations and to help finish a border wall, among other priorities.”

Good. That should make it possible to fix the situation left by Biden without using the AEA, which Imdont think the courts will allow.

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Great! :clap: :clap:

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The administration is also calling for $175 billion “to, at long last, finally secure our border.”

This expenditure should save tax payers about that amount every year. Knowing when to spend and when to cut is what separates the men from the boys in business. Isn’t it great to have a businessman at the helm?

FAIR arrived at this number by subtracting the tax revenue paid by illegal aliens – just under $32 billion – from the gross negative economic impact of illegal immigration, $182 billion.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers-2023

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Amazing. Most of you were fiscal conservatives until about three hours ago.

@Gaius prediction was right. Drunken sailor level spending. Nothing has changed

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Spending money on our national security, especially considering how Trump is presently antagonizing China…doesn’t bother me. Wasting money on promoting transgenderism around the world…does. Since this is your thread, can you show where you disagree with Trump’s expenditures? I haven’t dove into it to truly examine it but before I’d label this “drunken sailor level spending”, I’d have examples to back up my conclusion. Have you done that?

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Hmmm
The article writes:

The $163 billion cut in non-defense discretionary spending is a 22.6% reduction from current levels, according to an outline of the budget released by the White House.

I approve. I think what DOGE is doing is great!
But unless and until we address “non-discretionary”
spending we are just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

It also wrote:

Meanwhile, the president proposed a spending increase of more than $113 billion for the Pentagon from 2025 levels, bringing the total budget to $1.01 trillion.

Seems like a 10% (hefty) increase above and beyond the big-spending war-monger levels.

Remember?
We were spending too much in Ukraine, right?
So if we cancel that funding, why do we need to increases spending above and previous levels?

Nope, nope nope.
I will try to leave myself open to learn about this, but from where I am sitting I see no justification.

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There is no reason to spike def spending. The trillion dollars. It’s right there. Like the next ten countries (and this includes Russia and china) spend less than we do combined

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:rofl: Of course

Inflation has raised costs by much more percentage-wise than this increase. That said, you may be right but you’ve not shown any evidence to back up your opinion.

I am trying to picture someone thinking:
"It’s not that I think we are spending too much on Ukraine.
I want to spend all that and more,
I just want to spend it on something else and I’m not gonna tell you what it is until after the election, and even then I’m just gonna kind of slip it in to the military budget real quiet like."

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My opinion is that it’s too much

It’s a fact that we spend more than the counties that are our adversaries… combined

Not having a secure border and being flooded with illegals would cost this country more than the amount required to fix Biden’s mess.

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Yes all of that is great. And the rest?

Anybody remember BRAC? I’m ready for another round to close down most foreign bases and bring our guys home, and in the process drastically cutting the DOD budget.

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Oh boy I’d kinda forgotten about BRAC. not agreeing or disagreeing with you here,
Just remembering how much distress it caused in closure communities. I’d love to see a follow up study on how those places have fared.

(Which isn’t to say we should have kept them open. Just that I’m curious how they rebounded)

Fort Knox lost the 194th Armored Brigade and the area took a hit for a couple of years but now the area is much bigger. Radcliff, which borders Fort Knox, was always a dump so it was hard to gauge just how bad it was.

Seems to me DOGE should be eliminating wast in Pentagon before increasing any budget…but again what the hell do I know.

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