If one is not a long-range driver (and about 95% of driving is short commuting), then 250 miles (even the 210 that one gets in the winter) is plenty.
Enough for gas to go away completely? No…but enough for most driving needs.
I’ll bet they even serve themselves that exact same cup of piss every month when the payment is due. 
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Too darn expensive for just a mere commuter car.
I used to buy semi decent used cars for commuting and save my good car for hauling the family in especially on trips.
Sure if you buy for status.
I got mine for the price of a regular SUV.
A $5,000 putter that gets 350 miles on a 10 gallon tank.
A $30,000 (after tax credit) slave-made battery on wheels that can’t even get the range of my 6 cylinder mini-van while it’s pulling a 2,000lbs trailer.
Oh, but it can accelerate faster than the average idiot on the road can handle. OOOOOooooohhhh!
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Why should we listen to conservatives about the climate? You all have literally been spectacularly wrong about every single thing dealing with climate change my entire life.
We’re only a few years from conservatives celebrating Earth Day or whatever by bragging about how they emptied their truck’s oil filter into a clean river or whatever.
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What a crock of ■■■■■ You and your ilk have not gotten anything correct. From the coming Ice age in the 70’s to the polar bears drowning and the world only gonna last 10 years. Climate change started fires in Maui, opps nope, fires in Greece from climate change opps no. He’ll you have gotten it so wrong you and your ilk have changed the name three times.
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What a bunch of bull.
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Lol I see the market for historical revisionism is still grim. It’s only been the last two, three years you guys will admit that climate change is real and caused by people and often not even that. C’mon.
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The most popular Republican position on environmentalism for decades, until like the late 90s, was they we didn’t need it because the Bible says man is granted dominion over the earth and therefore humans can’t wreck the planet ecologically.
You wouldn’t even make that argument as a troll these days.
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The climate changes. That is what is real. That people believe it is caused by things like cow farts is serious derangement.
Pollution is cause by man. That is something we can correct. Climate is not caused by man and something we cannot correct.
If the climate is changing, as it has always done on a living, breathing plant then instead of wasting money on reducing carbon footprints, why not spend the money adapting?
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True, but that’s a limited group of people. My drive is only 28 miles to work one way, I wouldn’t want a 250 mile range. It reminds me of the old muscle cars from the 70s and 80s. But they weren’t people’s primary vehicles. My father had a 396 SS Chevy Nova. But we had a family vehicle also. It just seems to me that they’re trying to pass these EVs off as everyday vehicles to the masses. They are not.
It’s like the electric chainsaw I bought. I absolutely love it. But it’s not for serious work. It’s more or less a toy. It has serious limitations.
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Actually, 95% of all driving would be covered by those limits…HOWEVER…a stat alone like that is not enough because the driving that takes place in that 5% is very important.
That’s why gasoline isn’t going away any time soon no matter how hard that is pushed,
What the hell you talking about? What historical revision by me? We’re did I admit it was caused by people? Awful early to be drinking that much.
Yes, but that’s considering all driving. That %5 means a lot. It’s the difference between getting an EV and not getting one. Most of my driving is within those limits. But the parts that aren’t make it a deal breaker.
Yep…which is why I also hate it when EV proponents use the 95% stat without context.
For me, an EV works because I never drive outside those limits. I have never yet used a DC fast charger because of need (I used one once just to gauge how fast my vehicle would charge).
And of course, for long distance drives I still have a gas vehicle.
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Nonsense
I have no doubt that one day the technology will surpass that of traditional internal combustion engines, but that day is not now.
My 2018 Grand Caravan is also a toy, not the primary family vehicle. I have it set up as a “no conversion” camper van (sleeps 1-2 people on their own beds), complete with a 2.4Kwh battery powered by a 180w solar panel on the roof. The battery is capable of powering my 1800w induction cooker and egg poacher at the same time.
It only takes about 15 minutes to setup or convert back into a family vehicle, but I’ve only had to do that once when I took the family to Florida last month.
It was a flawless victory taking my daughter to Niagara Falls and my oldest son to Mt Rushmore earlier this year when the school year ended. I have my eye on some small cargo trailers that will make for an excellent family camper. Doesn’t take a whole lot of room to sleep everyone in hammocks.
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