The future of public schools

Maybe you should just debate yourself…since yo are not responding to my positions.

The Spartans thought so.

I concur college is not for everyone…and one can make a good living working in the trades, or finding a skill set that has a demand.

The rich have better schools and more options.

I can’t believe you typed that as an advocate for a voucher system…

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No argument here.

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I have to say I disagree with that concept. How many would encourage their child to behave badly, get poor grades then improve to rake in some money? None of that money would go to help the child in a dysfunctional home. I’d be more inclined to fund college or a trade school if a student shows improvement or promise.

That could be and I know there’s plenty of room for refinement but…doing the same thing isn’t working. This needs to be rethought out and a better plan put in place because the problem is exacerbating. These kids are our nation’s future and it isn’t going in the right direction.

Aptitude tests and a program geared towards those aptitudes. No doubt, that would keep most of the children interested in learning. Yes, you have to pass math to stay in the program but if you need more training in geometry than statistics, for example, place a heavier emphasis on geometry.

schools were never designed to fix broken homes

reading, 'riting, 'rithmatetic… how to emotionally cope when you have to pay the rent and buy food, who to talk to when daddy doesn’t come home…

section 8 housing and food stamps don’t cut it

teaching morality and good decision making? separation of church and state

teaching children how to make logical decisions? that might change how they vote…

but our system of government was never going to work for an uneducated and immoral society…

free government dope for everyone, killing babies one way or another…

utopia

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Environment, parental involvement, culture.

Take, for instance, a healthy baby born to a teenage single mother who’s relatives have lived in poverty and squalor for generations as a way of life. Place that infant in a home with two parents that teach morals, values and focus on education.

Don’t you think there will be a much different outcome for that child?

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I know what you’re saying is true but…it’s the current hand “we the people” are dealt. If we do nothing, “we” are done.

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You’re more optimistic than I am :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Children from homes without discipline and structure are not going to put effort into a few measly dollars as a reward (in my opinion).

IMO, you have to captivate and excite a student so that learning is so much fun they WANT to go to school. The only way I can think to do that is to design programs for aptitudes and personalities.

I agree with you. I’d like to see a program where parents or volunteers each take one day a week to teach a small group of students. I could get behind funding for school supplies, payment for the day of teaching and a central location for the students to meet if no one can host in their home.

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The idea was to motivate the parent to motivate their child. If a child then does well amongst their peers, would they then be more motivated on their own to perform at this higher level?

Another steaming pile of jackasses with no kids, giving their opinions on school and children.

Creepers much? :man_shrugging:

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I understand the intentions, but I don’t believe for a second a dysfunctional family with generations of ingrained apathy towards education is going to see the effort put in as significant enough to reap a few dollars.

2 years mandatory service after “graduation” maybe…

Said every generation of adults for a millenia.

True.

But I dunno if I have faith in the generation that says “sus” and “on God mane” to run things in the future.

And they are occasionally correct.