The Curious Case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia

[Samm]

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

Immorality is subjective.

In which Samm admits there is nothing actually wrong with murder, rape, child molestation, slavery, theft, and mutilation.

You have an amazing imagination. No matter how hard I try, cannot figure out how you extrapolated that conclusion from my absolute truism.

You don’t believe that those things are wrong, but you CAN’T believe those things are wrong if you think (im)morality is subjective.

Just stop. I never said anything about what I believe or don’t. You conjured all of that up with your over stimulated imagination. Morality is not uniform. It varies from era to era and from society to society from group to group. That makes it subjective.

“Beliefs about the shape of Earth changed from century to century, therefore the shape of Earth is subjective.”

Now you’re just being silly.

Disagreement is not evidence of subjectivism and disputes over morality are evidence of its objectivity.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Must be something in response to the words you put in my mouth, but it doesn’t track.

[Oryx]

@Samm

MS13 is the personification of evil.

I agree, but Garcia is an alleged gang member, not a proven one.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@Samm

The impetus for his protective order has been eliminated by El Salvador, therefore, it became moot.

That’s not the least bit true

It must be true. He’s gone, isn’t he?

[Oryx]

@Samm

If you can’t trust government to deport illegal aliens, who can you trust?

We’re not talking about deportation.

@Samm

You apparently trusted the last Administration to secure the border. Why was that trust different?

No, I most certainly did not, as you should know.

[Oryx]

@conan

@Oryx

So much trust in big government! “Conservatives” have come a long way.

What does that got to do with big government?

Allowing government officials to make decisions about who should and should not be locked up for life without a trial is as big government as it gets.

[Samm]

@Oryx

@Samm

If you can’t trust government to deport illegal aliens, who can you trust?

We’re not talking about deportation.

I am. The circumstances don’t matter to me. He’s gone … that’s the same as being deported.

@Samm

You apparently trusted the last Administration to secure the border. Why was that trust different?

No, I most certainly did not, as you should know.
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Okay, I’ll take your word for it. Consider there to be a © next to the “you.”

[conan]

@Oryx

Allowing government officials to make decisions about who should and should not be locked up for life without a trial is as big government as it gets.

He didn’t say locking them up…he said removing them.

Which is bigger…forcing states to take them in, house them, provide for them…and forcing societies to accept the consequences?

So tell me…which is largest government involvement?

And finally who open that borders against the wishes of people and over half the states?

[Oryx]

@Samm

The circumstances don’t matter to me. He’s gone

Gross.

@Samm

Okay, I’ll take your word for it.

You don’t have to, you can look at my posting history.

[Oryx]

@conan

He didn’t say locking them up…he said removing them.

Conan, this thread is not about deportations, it’s about locking up people forever without a trial. That’s the problem that I and so many others have with this. I have no issue with deporting Garcia and many others.

[conan]

@Oryx

That’s the problem that I and so many others have with this.

I have a problem with it as well…but point that’s the point now is it?

[peek-a-boo]

@Oryx

Conan, this thread is not about deportations, it’s about locking up people forever without a trial.

The thread is actually about the curious case of Abrego Garcia.

[Samm]

@Oryx

@Samm

The circumstances don’t matter to me. He’s gone

Gross.

First you put words in my mouth and now you judge them with your emotions. Do you seriously think you can shame me into submission?

@Oryx

@Samm

Okay, I’ll take your word for it.

You don’t have to, you can look at my posting history.

You seem to be under the impression that I care.

[Samm]

@Oryx

@conan

He didn’t say locking them up…he said removing them.

Conan, this thread is not about deportations, it’s about locking up people forever without a trial. That’s the problem that I and so many others have with this. I have no issue with deporting Garcia and many others.

It’s about both. Look at the OP.

[WuWei]

@conan

@Oryx

So much trust in big government! “Conservatives” have come a long way.

What does that got to do with big government?

It doesn’t get much bigger than prison without a trial.

[WuWei]

18 still exists. Yaboi screwed up.

[conan]

@WuWei

It doesn’t get much bigger than prison without a trial.

I"m not arguing against that…but overall what the left tried to impose onto society was big government at it’s worst.

[Samm]

@WuWei

18 still exists. Yaboi screwed up.

They probably retreated back to Mexico where they came from. Or fled to LA like the Salvadorans who started MS13 did.

[Oryx]

@peek-a-boo

The thread is actually about the curious case of Abrego Garcia.

Which is a story about extrajudicial incarceration.

I thought we were done?

[Oryx]

@Samm

Do you seriously think you can shame me into submission?

Nope

@Samm

You seem to be under the impression that I care.

I can tell how little you care by how you keep replying to my posts and trying to get my attention.

[Oryx]

@Samm

It’s about both. Look at the OP.

It’s the same story.