Spirit air announces 3rd round of layoffs, selling jets. (Phew! good thing the WH blocked the takeover)

Morningstar: Today

Spirit said it plans to sell 23 Airbus jets and cut millions in costs ‘primarily by a reduction in workforce’ as it scales back flight capacity . . .

CNN: April 8:
260 pilots furloughed(presumably non pilots too)

Skift: September 4th, 2024
186 additional pilots (presumably no pilots too)
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So was the Biden WH right to block the takeover?
Reuters:
March 11, 2024 DoJ sues to block JetBlue, Spirit Airlines merger

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20241024935/spirit-airlines-announces-layoffs-jet-sales-as-it-tries-to-stay-afloat

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/spirit-airlines-jetblue-lock-horns-over-takeover-2022-06-03/

Basically this is the third round of layoffs announced at Spirit this year.
(This time they are even selling planes.)

They have negative working capital and a tangble net worth of (positive) $1.1 billion.
They have lost around a half billion a year every year for the past 4 years
(during a post-pandemic travel boom)

Jet Blue tried to buy them out.
The WH blocked the move, saying something about giant super-profitable evil greedy corporations eliminating competition.

Of course the company wasnt profitable, (a LOT of corporations aren’t) and the competition was going to disappear anyway, just in a much more orderly fashion.

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Unfortunately, Spirit Air still exists meaning the rest of us still have to look at those yellow monstrosities every time we fly.

Jet Blue WOULD have done the world a major favor.

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VietJet Air is the only airline that has managed to make yellow look good in a livery.

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Spirit air selling planes is much better than them flying planes.

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Well not everything is based on the view from your airplane window.

Jet blue and Spirit both fly a lot of Florida-to-NE routes.

  • with merger the duplication would be eliminated
  • without merger the duplication would be eliminated (backruptcy of one or the other.)
  • either way the duplication would be elimanted.
  • both ways the ducplication would be elimainated.

The Biden WH said “This merger is about elimainted competiton so we can’t allow it.”
It’s a dumb rational.

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I was being humorous and yes, Spirit’s planes are monstrosities.

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So now Spirit is in talks with Frontier.

Maybe the Biden administration will let this one go through.

Government needs to stay out of this.

For the record, I flew Spirit once, and decided never to fly them again if I had other choices. So I’m not saying this to argue for Spirit’s survival. (And I’m in the same boat with Frontier. Both are on my last-resort list.)

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This one in particular? Or in general?

Right now, in this thread, the context is Spirit Airlines.

Maybe the problem is spirit is just a poorly run airline. It’s been losing a ton of money. Rather than let jet blue buy them let them go bankrupt. And let their gate slots be auctioned off in a free market

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:joy:. Thanks I’ll wait for @Gaius.

Frontier was in negotiations with Spirit before JetBlue. But JetBlue had stepped in and offered a better deal.

We flew them not long ago and we will not use them again.

Seats have very little cushion (We actually got a bit sore by end of flight) . Backs will not tilt back at all.

Extra bag is 69 dollars

Drinks or food are not free either etc etc

Hat tip.

I am completely open to this thread being used to discuss all sort of trust/anti-trust pro-competition issues.

In the US, such legal issues are handled by (at least) two independent and overlapping agencies. (The FTC & the anti-trust division of the DoJ have seperate heads and operate idndependently of each other. Kinda like if you commit a drug crime, you might be investigated by the FBI the DEA, the local police etc. all simultansously.)

Each of them is headed by a Wihitehouse appointee who can be removed at the whim of the Whitehouse. Each of them should be treated with at least the large degree of skepticism (mistrust) that is owed to all parts of the government.

That said the Spirit/Frontier merger is being blocked by the DoJ, which should not be trusted, but is not nearly as hair-on-fire leftist-whacky as Lina Kahn’s FTC.

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I’ll walk before I’ll get on a Spirit plane after having two flights canceled in a row and being denied a refund, only credit. If I remember correctly the credit had to be used within one year. They flat out stole my money. Not only do they not deserve to be in business, the leadership should be in jail.

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That is the stuff that puts companies out of business. One person turns into 10, then into 1000, and they tell everyone they know. Just based on what you said, I would never fly Spirit.

I have told a number of people in SW Florida and will keep telling them the story whenever the name comes up. To say I’m angry is an understatement.

I am very very skeptical about the DoJ decision to block the merger.
Their decision doesn’t make sense to me.

There is definitely trouble in the airline industry.
The stories you may have read about “revenge travel” and “The consumeris strong people are paying for experiences” are rughly as true as the stories you’ve read about Biden-Harris craing the most jobs in world history. (Depends on your measuring point.)

The red line and the blue line below shpow two popular ways of measuring domestic airline revenue. As we can see both are below the pre-pandemic trend.

That said, the severity of Spirit Airline’s problems seem to be unique to Spirit.
All the other airlines seem to be treating this like a downturn in business.
They shake their heads and laugh at the super-positive reports about the great travel economy, but only Spirit seems to be on its deathbed.

See the red arrow at the end here?
For everyone else it is more like a sideways arrow.