Socialist Gov. Murphy turns NJ citizens into tax slaves to benefit illegal entrants


#104

“The essence of all slavery consists in taking the product of another’s labor by force. It is immaterial whether this force be founded upon ownership of the slave or ownership of the money that he must get to live.”

  • Leo Tolstoy

What an idiot. He’d never make it here.


#105

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds!

  • Bob Marley

#106

Johnwk has misunderstood the history of our tax system long enough to write a book about it. It won’t change until death.


#107

Having skimmed the above, I concur with your assessment.

My defense of the metaphorical use of tge word slavery does not change that. The16th Amendment changes all forwritten parts that otherwise conflict with it.


#108

Lol. Southern jerseyites might disagree with you. Lol.

Northern jersey yes.

Southern jersey no.

Allan


#109

lol that

lol is what

lol
my post said.

lol


#110

And exactly what is it that I do not understand about the defined and limited taxing powers granted to Congress?

JWK


#111

Amendment XVI
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration


#112

Justice Roberts confirmed in the Obamacare case "The shared responsibility payment is thus not a direct tax that must be apportioned among the several States."

The fact is, regardless of the name one attaches to a federal tax, i.e., impost, duty, excise or income tax, If the tax takes the form of a direct tax, it must be apportioned as repeatedly commanded by our Constitution and our Supreme Court.

The truth is, Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4 has never been repealed and declares:

"No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

I know RINOs, communists, socialists, and progressives want the above provision of the Constitution repealed. But there it is for all to see, and our Supreme Court has repeatedly confirmed “direct” taxes are still required to be apportioned.

JWK

If, by calling a tax indirect when it is essentially direct, the rule of protection could be frittered away, one of the great landmarks defining the boundary between the nation and the states of which it is composed, would have disappeared, and with it one of the bulwarks of private rights and private property. POLLOCK v. FARMERS’ LOAN & TRUST CO., 157 U.S. 429 (1895)


#113

As you can see, the Amendment does not declare:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect direct taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration

JWK


#114

Oh posting the same old same ild same old.

Pssst I don’t necessarily think the SCOTUS was 100% right 100% of the time. Dredd Scott), no does re-re-reposting-posting-posting something make me suddenly believe you are applying the Roberts decision correctly. In fact I’m pretty sure he pays taxes. Duh.


#115

It’s a ridiculous definition of slavery.


#116

The price we pay for living in a civilized society.


#117

The 16th effectively overturned Pollock.


#118

Doesn’t change a thing.


#119

You are absolutely correct. Direct taxes are still required to be apportioned.

JWK


#120

OP should move to Somalia. He would be very happy there.


#121

When all else fails, post an insulting remark.

:roll_eyes:


#122

Don’t feed the trolls is good advice. :wink:


#123

The blind spot that dozens of forumers over the years have pointed out for you.