Should we unit illegal entrants on the other side of our border?

You forget to provide a link :roll_eyes:

You wrote: “And, as U.S. Representative for South Carolina, Burke advocated for the literal importation as cargo of people with no skills beyond the most primitive hunter-gatherer societies.”

Where is the link?

JWK

I’m still waiting for that link.

JWK

You were the one who wrote: “Burke advocated for the literal importation as cargo of people with no skills beyond the most primitive hunter-gatherer societies.”

It appears you cannot substantiate your assertion. Could it be that you are confusing Aedanus Burke with another Burke?

JWK

Well? Did you confuse Aedanus Burk with another Burke?

You are the one who wrote: “Burke advocated for the literal importation as cargo of people with no skills beyond the most primitive hunter-gatherer societies.”

What on earth were you talking about?

JWK

Is there a reason for providing that link. You do know posting links without any commentary is not acceptable?

JWK

Looks to me like he/she(?) conceded the point to you and admitted the error, with links.

No need to keep beating that horse.

The link is to the concession.

I didn’t say it was a “troll post”. Posting a link without any commentary leaves readers guessing why the link was posted. If you have something to say or a point to make, do it in a manner so there is no guessing needed to understand you.

JWK

Not if the readers realize that the link was pointing 3 posts up in this very same thread

:roll_eyes:

And everyone is to understand why the poster linked to that post?

JWK


There is no better way to weaken, destroy and subjugate a prosperous and freedom loving country than by importing the world’s poverty stricken populations into that country and making the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such an invasion.

Yes,I haven’t but breezed through the thread and I can tell you why they did that. They were simply referring to their earlier post because like usual you kept repeating yourself and they didn’t feel like following suit.

:roll_eyes:

Wrong. The poster in question wrote “Burke advocated for the literal importation as cargo of people with no skills beyond the most primitive hunter-gatherer societies.” And I repeatedly asked the poster to substantiate the claim and provide a link… Instead of substantiating the claim and providing a link, the poster repeatedly deflected and misdirected.

JWK

Getting back to the topic of the thread, should we unite illegal entrants on the other side of our border?

JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

In the long run, immigrants are net positive when it comes to budgets and at the federal level cost cost a lot less than natives.

People across my state of New York, all across the country are furious with this administration’s policy to separate children from their parents,” Gillibrand said.

Hah… what a lie. I live in New York and I know no one who is furious. I love the Trump presidency. The more libs lose their head, the more I love it.

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We are not talking about “immigrants”. We are talking about a specifically defined group of foreigners who are invading our borders ___ the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled populations of other countries. As soon as they set foot on American soil they immediately have their hand out for food, shelter, clothing, medical care, and other necessities of life which is financed by making American citizens tax-slaves to support this groups’ economic needs.

JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

no one is concerned about “immigrants” no more than they are about , say… electricity users or brewers. Now ILLEGAL immigrants or ILLEGAL electricity users or ILLEGAL brewers… different story. I know you want to deflect. sorry.

And what are the consequences of illegal entrants which are suffered by American citizens?

Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 “citizen children” apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these “citizen child” cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to “citizen children” cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under “restricted Medi-Cal benefits.” During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for “restricted Medi-Cal benefits.” Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.
A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.


And, more recently see:

Illegal aliens cost California billions
2004
”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”

Also see: Testimony about “51 Florida Hospitals in trouble” due to illegal aliens expenses:

Jun 10, 2008

”No need to editorialize. Here is a sampling of the sort of facts the politicians and pro-illegal lobby want you to ignore, yet expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is it any wonder scores of hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units!!!”

Then take a look at Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.

And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

And how about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”


Now, the question is, why does our open border crowd not support an America first immigration policy which is merit based and forbids “immigrants” from receiving government cheese for at least five years?

JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.