Should doctors and nurses be held to the same standard as police officers?

[FreeAndClear]

@FloridaYankee

@FreeAndClear

Well that’s not true at all medical records are vanished and edited all the time. It’s rare but it most definitely happens

Very risky with so much stuff in digital form now. Anytime in the future there could be reason for forensic investigation and things get found out. I just asked a medical professional that is her opinion. I

One of the reasons why it’s digital is because of it happening

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

Yes that’s why not every negligent act of a police officer is prosecuted.

Why are you calling it “negligent”? Don’t do that.

I don’t think that’s correct.

[DougBH]

That has nothing to do with “an exact science”. It is a known fact that a scalpel cutting an artery will cause the person to bleed, just like accidentally shooting them will cause the person to bleed.

[coolidge]

You know I think you are right. Thanks to this thread, it made think about this more. But yes I think you can make a legit argument that it does happen.

[WuWei]

How about this;

Patient dies while medical personnel were “gathering more data” instead of treating them?

[Oryx]

@WuWei

So what.

So the study is not conclusive.

@WuWei

No what? I didn’t say there was more than one, I said Johns Hopkins. Are you calling Johns Hopkins a liar?

No, Johns Hopkins did not fall for the hype their study created. I am not calling Johns Hopkins “a liar,” I’m not even saying their study is incorrect. I’m saying there were potential flaws in the study and the results are not conclusive.

[WuWei]

@Oryx

As for the OP, I don’t think doctors and nurses should be charged with crimes for honest mistakes, and I think the Potter conviction is too harsh.

Medical people shouldn’t be charged.

Police should only get a little prison time?

[WuWei]

@Oryx

So the study is not conclusive.

No “study” ever is. Science.

@Oryx

No, Johns Hopkins did not fall for the hype their study created. I am not calling Johns Hopkins “a liar,” I’m not even saying their study is incorrect. I’m saying there were potential flaws in the study and the results are not conclusive.

Based on…?

[Oryx]

@WuWei

Police should only get a little prison time?

Every case is different. In Potter’s case, I would not give her any prison time.

[WuWei]

How about this?

Patients die because medical personnel failed to foresee need?

[WuWei]

@Oryx

@WuWei

Police should only get a little prison time?

Every case is different. In Potter’s case, I would not give her any prison time.

Is every case different? What’s different?

Would you have charged her?

[Oryx]

@WuWei

Based on…?

The two flaws I read about were a small sample size (just 35 deaths examined) and not clearly defining “medical mistake.”

[WuWei]

@Oryx

@WuWei

Based on…?

The two flaws I read about were a small sample size (just 35 deaths examined) and not clearly defining “medical mistake.”

Yet you can’t prove they are even “flaws”, much less that the study is incorrect in its conclusion.

[WuWei]

Good topic.

[Bosun]

Will woke-ness call to defund doctors and nurses?

I figured woke-ness will start the barefooted medical program to provide affordable medical care to the masses.

Maybe Hunter can be the new board director. The Big Guy says he is the smartest person in the family.

[Oryx]

@WuWei

Yet you can’t prove they are even “flaws”, much less that the study is incorrect in its conclusion.

Not clearly defining a key term is a flaw. But as I already said, I’m not trying to debunk the study, I’m just pointing out there is a lot of disagreement about it. Medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the US, or they may not.

[WuWei]

@Oryx

@WuWei

Yet you can’t prove they are even “flaws”, much less that the study is incorrect in its conclusion.

Not clearly defining a key term is a flaw. But as I already said, I’m not trying to debunk the study, I’m just pointing out there is a lot of disagreement about it. Medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the US, or they may not.

No it isn’t.

Why did you post those links in response to the claim they are?

[Oryx]

@WuWei

Is every case different? What’s different?

The circumstances and people involved are different.

@WuWei

Would you have charged her?

No, I just would have fired her.

[WuWei]

The posts in this thread are a good indication of what I was trying to say in the Potter thread.

You change the human from a blue uniform to a white lab coat and all of a sudden it’s different.

[Bosun]

I don’t care. Doctors and nurses are doing the best that they can. Medical management decisions and corporate greed may be a big factor.