Shock poll! According to CNN 76 percent of blacks are in favor of Jim Crow!

Which don’t prove citizenship definitively.

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/article/five-things-to-know-about-the-save-act/

Many eligible citizens don’t have documentary proof of citizenship

According to the U.S. Department of State, examples of primary citizenship evidence include a birth certificate, a U.S. passport, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, a Certificate of Citizenship, or a Naturalization Certificate. (While Real IDs are often assumed to be a reliable proxy for citizenship, they do not definitively establish citizenship.)

Although at least one of these documents are in theory available to most citizens, not all voters have them readily available. According to recent studies:

9% of all eligible voters do not have, or do not have easy access to, documentary proof of citizenship.
52% of registered voters do not have an unexpired passport with their current legal name.
11% of registered voters do not have access to their birth certificate.
Additionally, birth certificates often lack information that matches a person’s current identity. For instance, someone who has changed their name through marriage or court order may need to present a third document (such as a marriage certificate) to join their proof of citizenship (e.g., birth certificate) with their proof of identity (e.g., driver’s license), further decreasing the likelihood that a voter will have the appropriate documentation on hand to successfully register.

Even if voters were to provide documentary proof of citizenship, verifying the authenticity of those documents is an inherently complex task, one that election officials and motor vehicle departments often do not have the resources or training to perform.

Kansas offers a case study of how a documentary proof requirement would likely play out in practice. Before the law took effect, noncitizen registration in Kansas was exceedingly rare, accounting for about 0.002% of registered voters. After adoption, the documentary proof of citizenship requirement prevented roughly 31,000 eligible citizens, or 12% of all applicants, from registering to vote. In short, the law prevented far more citizens from registering to vote than noncitizens.

thats a nice story. Not true, but a nice story

no one born in this country does not have access to their BC
I dare say virtually every naturalized citizen has their citizenship papers

either are necessary for real ID, and real ID is proof of citizenship because of it.

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It’s simply easier to cheat when ID’s are not required. Do you think that’s why your party doesn’t want ID’s?

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There is virtually no identiy theft cheating in our elections.

Why do you think the GOP wants voter id given that fact?

Convenient that you ignore research because it doesn’t support your political narrative.

In a December 11 court filing, Philip Lavoie, the acting assistant special agent in charge of DHS’ Mobile, Alabama, office, stated that, “REAL ID can be unreliable to confirm U.S. citizenship.”

who cares what some nobody said?

There is not one single precinct in the entire nation that will not accept real ID for voting. Everything else is just leftist narrative

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I’m not gonna go point by point here because this would be a 3000 word post so I’ll just ask:

Would you support making local and federal general election days a holiday? Why or why not?

Let’s bridge some gaps here if we are going to be serious about solving this stuff.

I’m not lying

I can’t post links but you can Google it. In 2015 Alabama closed a bunch of DMVs in disproportionately Black and Dem voting areas. This is a fact.

I would support changing the day to Saturday or Sunday

Thy have satellite offices. Your “facts” are nothing but leftist drivel

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I don’t understand why anyone would be surprised with the poll results it’s common sense requiring a photo ID to vote and practiced by literally every democratic country.

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That nobody is representing the federal government. It is their position that Real ID can’t serve to prove citizenship.

So that people are confident that only citizens are voting. 83 percent of the population wants this. And 71 percent of your party. So stop spreading the lie that its only the GOP.

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Of course it is!

They know it too but will never admit it.

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no, its just a nobody

1 - The state makes a certain service is a requirement.

2 - The state in turn makes access to those services markedly worse for undesirables.

3 - Claim they’re just lazy whiny pieces of garbage if they don’t make due with less or have the audacity to point out the inequity.

Eat the scraps and like it.

everything after #1 is just narrative

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Nope. It’s a representative of the federal government arguing the government’s position is, Real ID does not prove citizenship.

Of course it is.

Interesting that 76 percent of blacks want voter ID but their party leaders think they know better what is best for them than they do. :roll_eyes: