Why does the role of the VP need to be “clarified”?
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Why would it make Trump look “bad” ?
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that role is already clear and defined so the bill adds nothing
all this bill is is an anti-trump knee jerk response by children in our govt
complete waste of time.
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I have an issue with too much federal consolidation of power such as.
It would replace
ambiguous provisions of the 19th-century law with clear procedures that maintain appropriate state
and federal roles in selecting the President and Vice President of the United States as set forth in the
U.S. Constitution.
Also do not like this. Mob rule and more federal power.
Protection of Each State’s Popular Vote. Strikes a provision of an archaic 1845 law that could
be used by state legislatures to override the popular vote in their states by declaring a “failed
election” – a term that is not defined in the law. Instead, this legislation specifies that a state
could move its presidential election day, which otherwise would remain the Tuesday
immediately following the first Monday in November every four years, only if necessitated by
“extraordinary and catastrophic” events.
This is one provision that I like. So there is something there worthwhile.
Higher Objection Threshold. Raises the threshold to lodge an objection to electors to at least
one-fifth of the duly chosen and sworn members of both the House of Representatives and the
Senate. This change would reduce the likelihood of frivolous objections by ensuring that
objections are broadly supported. Currently, only a single member of both chambers is needed to
object to an elector or slate of electors.
A single objector is too low and 1/5 is reasonable.
I like the bill! Makes a lot of sense.
Sure.
Here is the current text of Title 1 Chapter 3.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title3-section15&num=0&edition=prelim
Compare that to the proposed Title 1 Chapter 3 of the bill.
I’m sure you’ll find it to be “already clear.” Even though it’s not. The commitment to cognitive dissonance is always impressive, I’ll give you that.
The psycho soup is boiling. It should’ve come off the burner a long time ago, but now it’s reduced and oxidized.
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no one knew what the VP should do all along till trump caused that insurrection, huh?
Because the Eastman memo.
Impossible and you know it.
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The law that they are amending is over 150 years old Which one of them read it before the Eastman memo became a thing?
Nothing in this law would prevent another lawyer with lexis or westlaw access to write another memo and find another loophole to try something else.
Thanks.
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Because during the last general election many of the electorate were under the impression the VP could stop the certification. We even had posters on here saying that.
So yes the role of VP does need to be clarified. Why is clarifying a role ever a bad thing?
The bill is an exercise in turd-polishing. The people in power in Washington got there with the current corrupt system, so they have no interest in real reform to give transparently free and fair elections.
The two vital issues that need to be addressed are:
- Problem: The existing election system is easily hacked and non-auditable. The problems that existed before 2020 are still there. Neither party going to accept a loss in a close election.
Solution: Use in-person voting with paper ballots. Machines used in counting the votes should have no more intelligence than a microwave oven.
- Problem: The security state blatantly interferes in the elections and in media reporting. The gag order on the Biden laptop is a prime example. Polls show that this interference was the margin of victory in the 2020 election.
Solution: Abolish the FBI and CIA and give their legitimate functions to other agencies. Restore real congressional oversight.
If it needs clarifying, then the notion that the VP could require auditing of suspect certifications before opening the envelope must have been a possible reading of an ambiguity in the constitution. In which case, seeing a need to clarify is de facto admitting Trump and co. had some legal basis for their attempts to get the VP to delay finalising some of the electoral college votes.
Lmao are you for real. Let me guess you were one of those duped that thought Pence could stop the certification.
Too funny. Talk about mental gymnastics just to convince oneself that Trump was right.
He is not wrong.
Pence thought about it too. And met about it too.
The issue isn’t the confusion, the issue is that there was no basis for Pence to do anything since whatever minute fraud there was didn’t affect any of the state elections.
So is the CATO institute a bunch of RINO’s too?
Are they right up there with Neil Gorsuch as well (he backed vaccine mandates)?
Just trying to get my good guy scorecard straight is all.
Why are they trying to pass this bill?
Trump wrote this on Truth Social a few hours ago.
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Donald J. Trump
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4h
So the Democrats, RINOS, and almost ALL others said that Mike Pence, or any V.P., had absolutely no right to do anything but send the “Votes” to the Old Broken Crow, Mitch McConnell, even if they were fraudulent, corrupt, or highly irregular. The V.P. was merely a “human conveyer belt” and could do nothing. BUT NOW, the DEMS & RINOS are working to pass a Bill that stops the V.P. from doing what he was not allowed, according to them, to do. It was all a “Big Lie.” Should have sent back to States!
He makes a solid point.
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