S.C. believed to lack 5 votes to affirm non-conditional, U.S. birthright citizenship

I certainly can identify “useful idiots” and those with mush for brains.

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I am sure that’s easy enough for you. Since you probably cherry pick there too. You don’t have to hold back.

When truth and facts are presented which upset you, I have noticed you have a fetish to dismiss them with the lazy “cherry pick” routine. :roll_eyes:

meriam webster is not the law. this thread is about the ussc and law. by law, they are not immigrants of any kind. illegal aliens. visitors without visas. the left knows what its doing with language, you should too. once you accept they are immigrants, its a short hp to they should be able to stay, after all… they immigrated. they did not immigrate, they crashed the gate and trespassed.

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once you accept they are “immigrants” of any kind you have accepted the first false premise. immigrants have paperwork, they are allowed into the country for the purpose of immigrating. there is no legal difference between a visitor that overstays their visa and a person who crosses the border illegally. niether has a right to be here, niether has permission to be here, neither has been allowed to stay here nor have we agreed to allow them to immigrate. They are trespassers, visitors without visas, illegal aliens. What they are not, is immigrants.

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Pick any dictionary you like. You will find none that agrees with your definition. By the way, that definition was quoted from the Oxford dictionary.

Why are you so adamant about this? What possible difference does it make whether one calls them illegal aliens or illegal immigrants? The only word that matters is, “illegal.”

no, it matters. legally there is NO SUCH thing as an illegal immigrant, they are illegal aliens. Immigration is a process that does not start with crashing the gate.

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Why are you so determined to not accurately define an illegal entrant foreign national as, an illegal entrant foreign national?

You are in a one-man argument.

I looked it up just for fun. It seems that the law has nothing to do with what they are called. The terms all mean pretty much the same thing, but “alien” is considered a derogatory term and “illegal” is too broad (because it lumps minor infractions with serious ones) do “undocumented immigrant” is the politically correct terms. In other words, it’s all about feelings.

But in this Forum, it doesn’t matter in the least which term one uses. So lighten up.

Still hanging on to your fetish to avoid identifying an illegal entrant foreign national as, an illegal entrant foreign national?

That is false, the correct legal term is illegal alien.

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Who gives a ■■■■■

When have I ever done that? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Certainly not you.

Do you?

Provide a post of my to the contrary, i.e., not accurately referencing an illegal entrant foreign national as, an illegal entrant foreign national.

I didn’t say you did, I asked you if you did.

Actually, I don’t even know if you know what Ben and I were talking about. From that post, it would appear that you don’t.

You falsely misconstrue “illegal aliens” as being “immigrants”, which evades the fact those you reference are illegal entrants.

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No I didn’t. Anyone who leaves their country and comes to America with the intent to live here is an immigrant by definition. If they enter the country without the proper visa, they are illegal immigrants, again, by definition. What about that is do hard for you to understand?

the thread is about the SC and the law, hopefully they do