Russia/Ukraine, what's the likely outcome, and how long will it take?

This is comedy gold!

Yes, neocon delusions of invincibility would be hilarious if they weren’t so incredibly dangerous.

Hopefully saner people in the Pentagon will force an end to this insanity at the upcoming NATO emergency meeting.

LOL… says the guy declaring a backwater army that can’t defeat Ukrainee will defeat all of NATO.

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No idea. Could be as little as a year or less or more than a few years. It really depends on two factors.

  1. How long Russia’s economy can keep production of war material up.
  2. How many casualties can the Russians sustain until they decide a half-win with a winddown is better than killing an entire generation (which they’ve already gotten close to) in a no-win situation.

Much of this is on the Russians to decide. Ukraine just needs to survive.

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Can’t imagine Putin walks away without declaring some sort of victory.

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The Ukrainian army is by far the largest NATO-trained army in Europe, and the enormous stocks of NATO weapons that have been destroyed in Ukraine will take many years to replace.

If US or western European troops experienced the intense artillery and aerial bombardment that Ukrainian conscripts have endured, the likely result would be fragging and mass mutinies. That is what happened in Vietnam under much less extreme circumstances.


https://allthatsinteresting.com/fragging-vietnam-war

That is what happened under similar conditions on the western front in WW1 when blind obedience was still enforced by execution.

One likely outcome is that conventional warfare will come to western Europe. That is a virtual certainty if Tuesday’s NATO meeting decides to escalate further with more missiles into Russia.

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War is cool when Ukrainians are doing all the dying for you.

A lot of things were virtual certainties.

And yet here we nearly three years later.

What’s good for the Ukranian people?

I believe Trump will negotiate a settlement with Russia getting the land buffer it is looking for in Ukraine.

I believe Ukraine will see the writing on the wall regarding waning Western aid. Without that aid, they will eventually fall. That will be their incentive to accept Russian gains.

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End the war and accept that Ukraine will be a neutral country.

What exactly would that look like? What would be the terms?

Sure in exchange for Kursk and Donbas Ukraine can be a neutral country

But regardless so basically what’s good for Ukrainians is to submit. Amazing

As long as only white people are being killed the woke college kids won’t protest.

Haven’t the Ukrainians suffered much more in terms of damage and lives than Russia?

Who gets to decide how many Ukrainians have to die and how much more damage Ukraine takes?

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In terms of raw numbers, probably not. Russia has been on the offensive for most of the war. Generally speaking in warfare, the attacker usually suffers at least three times the casualties of those of the defender.

In terms of percentage of total population, the Ukrainians have probably suffered worse overall. Ukraine not only has its battlefield casualties as a concern, but they’ve lost 8 million people as refugees earlier in war. To be fair, most of those were women and children, but it’s still a huge economic loss.

One hint about Ukrainian casualties is how conscription is working there. They only draft 22-45 year olds. If they were totally at their most desperate position, they would expand that to 18-55 year olds and start drafting women, the levee en masse. They haven’t seen fit to do that yet so they must feel comfortable with their current loss to induction rate.

The Ukrainian people make that decision. If they decide to change it, they’ll revolt against Zelensky and the current regime while chanting “peace at any price.”

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Ukrainians.

The likely outcome is that the US will spend hundreds of billions defending the Ukraine’s border, all while destroying ours. The net result is innocent Americans will be murdered, raped, violently attacked, robbed all while fentanyl deaths increase…not to mention illegal immigrant children are sex trafficked. The "V"irtuous left though…is either naive or completely ignorant of this truth because in spite of it, they still voted for their “border czar” who helped encourage all of this to happen.

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Not everything is border.