Robert E. Lee has been gloriously cremated 153 years after his death (well, sort of)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/charlottesville-s-lee-statue-meets-its-end-in-a-2-250-degree-furnace/ar-AA1iUfij?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=b58a1f5851554a46841f4c99eec49f33&ei=15

The former Charlottesville statue of Robert E. Lee was chopped up and melted in a furnace at 2,250 degrees.

A very good day and another large shovel full of dirt on what is left of the myth of the “Lost Cause.”

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Good riddance to traitorous trash.

How is a stutue traitorous? :wink:

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The men who fought against Lee respected him and forgave him, why can’t you?

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A few individuals perhaps.

The desire for national reconciliation was more a factor than a general forgiveness of Lee.

Had Andrew Johnson not handled the matter so badly, it is very likely that both Jefferson Davis and Lee would have ended up on the gallows.

The error of Johnson insisting the cases be tried in Virginia and a number of circumstances led to Davis and Lee ultimately escaping trial and punishment.

In the end, it does not make a bit of difference if I, Safiel, forgive Lee or not. It makes not difference at all in regards to statues and other items honoring him.

In the end, the man died a traitor to his country. As a traitor, he should be stripped of any and all honors. Even if I forgave him, it would make no difference on this point.

Forgiveness is a very personal act and an act of grace.

For example, families may forgive someone who has wronged them criminally, but still demand penance.

Even a middle schooler would understand the concept of not honoring a traitor to one’s country.

They may choose to forgive them, but forgiveness is merely an act of grace, it does not erase the underlying crime.

So it is both possible and logical for somebody to be able to forgive Lee and at the same time demand that his honors be removed.

Separate point

But this goes far beyond Lee.

It is also aimed directly at the white supremacist scum that assembled in Charlottesville.

Destroying Lee’s statute is a symbolic jaw breaking punch to the white supremacists.

It reads out in big capital letters:

YOU ■■■■■■■ LOSE!!!

And I know they are raging even now at the destruction of the statue.

And good men must continue to carry the fight forward and obliterate white supremacism. Destruction of these symbols goes a long way towards that goal.

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Amazing that you© can hold so much hatred about something that neither you nor anyone else alive today was involved in.

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Such organized and theatrical venom no less.

Erasing history for fun and profit.

Next up?

:fire:

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if lee fought for his country (as he should have) they would have won easily, instead he choose state above country. and got a lot of soldiers killed.

he made his choice badly. now people want to idolize this person.

he was terrible then, he is terrible now.

burn baby burn. bobby lee (and Davis) was a treasonous traitor to the country.

Allan

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Haters have to hate, huh Allan.

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https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Explore/History-of-Arlington-National-Cemetery/Arlington-House

when will the left dig up Arlington?

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hating traitors to the country comes naturally to me.

Allan

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dont want to dig up the dead.

Allan

No need to dig them up… there is no need to hold them in a place of honor either.

If you could ask lee, he would have said the union were the traitors. Most of these men held high positions for the union. I dont think they made their decision lightly to give such an affluent position up. Its ashame we have such revisionist pukes in todays america.

Well… thing is that Lee was wrong and fought to preserve slavery.

He doesn’t deserve a place of honor.

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Well the thing is. You like so many other apologists only look at issues on the surface. Lee deserves quite abit of credit. He made his choice to fight for his state. Later, in life, he made the effort to amend and help heal the country.

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He deserves zero credit.

He fought to preserve an oligarchical slave nation.

He has the blood of thousands of dead on his hands.

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Because those were men. Look at the pathetic little boys who cling on to this like it actually, somehow, makes them less miserable inside. :wink:

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If anyone wants to honor a former Confederate… make it Longstreet.

After the war he worked to advance the cause of formerly enslaved people and as his reward he has been vilified by the Lost Cause as being a traitor who was partly responsible for losing the war for the South.

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Lee paid lip service.

Longstreet put his money where his mouth was. He commanded black militias to fight the racist redshirts in New Orleans. He also pushed for freedman educational programs and while he did not support full equality, he did push for blacks to have the right to vote and to serve in the state militias and state governments.

Like Jez said Longstreet was ostracized by his fellow former confederates because he actually did some work. If anything Longstreet was the example that the south should have followed after the war. Yeah we lost the war but now we have this situation and it’s best that we make amends and start integrating blacks into the political process.

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