Reports are half of new COVID cases in Israel were fully vaccinated

SixFoot · June 28, 2021, 2:18pm

They certainly were last year. There’s something (D)ifferent about this year though.

JayJay · June 28, 2021, 2:19pm

No they are not.

Doesn’t change my statement.

Just sticking with Israel and the numbers given there…the unvaccinated are being impacted far more than the vaccinated.

WuWei · June 28, 2021, 2:20pm

Nor mine.

JayJay · June 28, 2021, 2:22pm

As I stated in my edit, just sticking with Israel and the numbers being reported…the new cases and hospitalizations are far more from the unvaccinated group than the vaccinated group.

We are seeing that in all countries.

Most new cases are unvaccinated people.

Almost all new hospitalizations are unvaccinated people.

It is a reasonable statement to make that with fewer vaccinations, the new numbers in both cases and hospitalizations would be worse.

Kelby · June 28, 2021, 2:43pm

JayJay:

Toll_Collector:

Bill.in.PA:

They are claiming that the vaccine prevents most transmission, and the vaccine reduces the severity of the disease if you get it. Both statements appear to be true.

On the other hand, there is good chance that mutations will develop that get around the limited immunity produced by the vaccine.

CNN

Covid-19 booster shot will likely be needed within a year of vaccination,…

Pfizer has not yet finished its trials on a booster vaccine, its CEO said Wednesday.

This is where they’re going to lose a lot of people. They did their best to get everything with a pulse vaccinated and what percentage of people are vaccinated? We won’t even see half that get the booster. And hey, only half of Fauci’s staff are vaccinated, right?

How do you go about educating people that don’t understand how all this works?

I will admit I’m at a loss. The vaccine obviously works…not as effective against mutants like delta but even there while the vaccinated stand a small but significant chance of contracting COVID, the odds are it will be a very mild case (pretty much every new hospitalization is now an unvaccinated person).

But I’m being asked why I’m “mad”?

I’m “mad” because of threads like this that intimate the vaccine isn’t working…when the math actually shows it is.

And threads like this, multiplied across social media, act as deterrents for people to do the things that will help.

The term “Social Darwinism” comes to mind.

Camp · June 28, 2021, 2:44pm

Desantis is right about US looking like Canada now without his state fighting the feds and Trump vaccine.

Camp · June 28, 2021, 2:46pm

Best sales PR for vaccine possible.

That would be a better focus.

JayJay · June 28, 2021, 2:55pm

Then you might want to ask the OPer and some others why they are trying to tell a different story about the vaccine.

Ben_Natuf · June 28, 2021, 2:57pm

■■■■■■■■■

JayJay · June 28, 2021, 2:58pm

Really?

I was imagining the ridiculous arguments being put forth by people to avoid doing any type of mitigation against COVID?

WuWei · June 28, 2021, 3:01pm

Where?

Ben_Natuf · June 28, 2021, 3:05pm

the only thing the last year has taught us is that governments headed by liberals don’t know their place.

there is absolutely no difference in the results between states that did very little mandating (fl) and states that mandated everything (ca).

we are Americans. give us the information we need to make an informed decision for ourselves and get the ■■■■ out of our lives.

conan · June 28, 2021, 3:36pm

They can’t do that…it’s against the very nature of libism.

Camp · June 28, 2021, 4:22pm

100% Correct and very well stated!!

JimmyC · June 28, 2021, 4:56pm

We would have 400,000 fewer dead Americans if we looked like Canada.

JimmyC · June 28, 2021, 4:57pm

California would have 6,000 more dead people if it had the same death rate as Florida

Camp · June 28, 2021, 4:58pm

What makes you think that?

The US has a much more dense and well traveled population.

Ben_Natuf · June 28, 2021, 5:06pm

it would have the sane number of dead people no matter what it did.

Ben_Natuf · June 28, 2021, 5:07pm

except of course we’re not canada.

Toll_Collector · June 28, 2021, 8:27pm

User Clip: Fauci admits only 50-60% of CDC and NIH employees have been vaccinated | C-SPAN.org

Ok, around half, maybe 60%.