Question for forum libs

Oh, I am doing the same, thinking out loud. The fact of the matter is, being special is quite enticing. Attention is the deadliest addiction in modern life. Folks kill for it, they poison their children for it, they prostitute themselves for it. We now have a group of people who have bravely overcome their dysphoria, which is lifelong and persistent (which it needs to be) and are getting the care they deserve. They are considered brave.

And to some who seek attention, that is very enticing. They want to be admired, noticed. While there are probably some late seeking GD patients which are legitimate I am hard pressed to believe that a man in his 40’s or 50’s, who has a longstanding marriage and children, is one of them. This is a midlife crisis with breast implants.

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To me it sounds like a congressman saying if it’s a legitimate rape you can’t get pregnant because the body has a way to shut that whole thing down.

Definitely agree about attention seeking but if someone is willing to go to those lengths then they do have other issues.

If an adult wants to use their own money to pay for surgery go for it, but using insurance or other methods that reduces their financial liability should be closely scrutinized and definitely subject to medical evaluation.

I do know that not all employer self funded health insurance plans cover gender surgery and they shoild not be forced to

Does that mean you do not think Gender Dysphoria is a legitimate condition?

No i do but at this time (and i am open to be convinced) it should be up to the employer assuming they self fund. If they are fully insured then thats the insurance companies choice. Though of course if a state mandates it, insurance companies have to cover it in those states.

Employers that self fund are not subject to state mandates.

Ok…thanks.

I’m sure it’s a legitimate thing that exists.

I also believe it’s probably hugely abused for various reasons.

Equating GD to rape is interesting, to say the least. Cannot disagree with you more. We are hard wired as to our gender identity, the GD patients who truly need care show persistent and lifelong dysphoria. “Dysphoria” arising after living a life of gender appropriate behaviors, such as fathering children, is not the same. It insults and throws risk to people who genuinely need the care and the understanding of the community at large.

When you have a grown ass man in a wig wanting to use the women’s rest room, it not only puts those women at risk but also true GD patients. They now face heavier scrutiny, less understanding and more violence because of the late converts. And they won’t care because the focus is on them, and that is probably the only thing they desire, all eyes on them.

It’s sad because I advocate and care about Trans people, they are facing incredible hostility right now and a good part of it is because of these men who are making everyone absolutely pissed off right now.

That’s one of the silliest things ever posted. Like anywhere.

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Thats the truth. I did not compete and do not still compete in the events I do to have fun. I compete to win. Only losers compete to have fun. As they say if you come in second you are just the first loser.

I compete in many events just to have fun and my self-esteem is strong enough that I do not need the recognition of winning everything.

I had a blast doing a 5k run with colleagues from work and afterwards we all went to the pub for food and drinks. Not one of us came anywhere close to winning and the day was brilliant.

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Thats one heck of a life outlook. All the best.

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A desire to win in any competition is important. But you’ve also got to love playing the sport in the first place to really get fulfillment out of it.

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Other than psycholicical issues, what various reasons?

Unless it’s golf. Love/hate that game for 30 years.

Attention.

You think think there are that many men, who claim they are a female do so for for attention? Seriously? You tend to have an open mind.

Warning, may be entertaining, and contain some dirty words.

I didn’t say many or most.

Some of them, for sure. It always happens.

Equating the line of thinking , in that I’m envisioning a Transitioning Opportunity Window between the age of 18 and whenever it’s not too old. 29. 22. Better act fast. But not too fast.

This also sounds overly hostile when I read my own posts.

I compete to win because no one purchases horses from losers. I am the one who makes my horses look good. I am a winner and that makes my horses look good.

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