Putin Peace Talks

[biggestal99]

@gooddad409

Obama was nominated just 11 days after taking officee when he hadn’t done a damn thing to deserve it.

but he was POTUS unlike what you stated.

Allan

[AZslim]

@Ben_Natuf

same as SK, he believes talking nice will get him further. And in some ways, it does. It just won’t get him the deals he wants. SK is not going to denuclearize, and Putin is not going to settle for less than he thinks he can achieve without a deal. Force is the only thing that will work. His instinct to let Ukraine arm itself to the teeth is what needs to happen, but he keeps backing away from it trying to get that deal and cement himself in place as the greatest peacemaker of all time. He likes to say "peace through strength, but he’s unwilling or too scared to actually show the strength.

What he should do now is show Putin his ploy did not work and move forward with the sanctions and tariffs, and also make sure Ukraine can get whatever it needs. Only then is there a chance for peace.

It’s just been reported that Trump backs a plan for Ukraine to cede territory to Russia to end the war. (I can’t post links for some reason or I would.)

Trump caving in to Putin. Again.

I’m interested to see the defense of this by the Trump faithful.

[Ben_Natuf]

should have been pretty clear from the first paragraph that I don’t think he will. He’ll be forced politically to make threats again, and then Putin will ask for another meeting and it will all go by the wayside.

[Ben_Natuf]

@AZslim

It’s just been reported that Trump backs a plan for Ukraine to cede territory to Russia to end the war. (I can’t post links for some reason or I would.)

thats not even news.

[Guilds]

@gooddad409

Look at the riots he stirred in this country.

Which ones were those? What did he do to cause riots?

[tnt]

@Ben_Natuf

Not as much as he gains continuing it if we aren’t helping Ukraine. Which is what he got. Trump got played.

This was nothing but Putin ensuring Trump’s plan to put sanctions on Russia and punish those who are helping them did not happen. Trump fell for it.

Who didn’t see this happening?

Putin bringing up the election…jeez…what a sucker.

[AZslim]

@Ben_Natuf

@AZslim

It’s just been reported that Trump backs a plan for Ukraine to cede territory to Russia to end the war. (I can’t post links for some reason or I would.)

thats not even news.

I’m not sure what you mean.

[Samm]

@TheRedComet

What does Putin really gain from ending the war now?

A better economy and fewer dead Russians.

[TheRedComet]

He doesn’t care that much about either of those things.

[Ben_Natuf]

its only been his position forever. Its not news.

[Nemesis]

Putin knew exactly how to play Trump and he did.

[TheRedComet]

I imagine Ukraine doesn’t feel that great about it.

I could understand formally handing over Crimea. But the rest of it? No dice with that.

[Axxowiz]

He was the deporter the country had ever seen

[tnt]

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind

We’re being governed by idiots.

[gooddad409]

@Axxowiz

He was the deporter the country had ever seen

Obama?

He was good at claiming turnarounds at the border as “deportations”.

[Samm]

@TheRedComet

He doesn’t care that much about either of those things.

Perhaps, but they would still be something he gained.

[Samm]

@Nemesis

Putin knew exactly how to play Trump and he did.

How exactly? What did Putin get from Trump in this meeting?

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@Nemesis

Putin knew exactly how to play Trump and he did.

How exactly? What did Putin get from Trump in this meeting?

Photo Op.

[Samm]

C’mon man, you can’t be serious.

[AZslim]

@Ben_Natuf

its only been his position forever. Its not news.

I don’t think he has explicitly supported Ukraine ceding land to Russia before.