Proof of god is a moral question. Do you see the morals shown for god as good or evil?
Religions tout themselves as being the final word in moral issues, even though secular law has rejected as too barbaric most of those laws. Not that they were original to Christianity as many of the older traditions had variants of the same laws.
To me, a moral god would cure and never kill. That is the position Jesus took towards the non-believers.
Jesus said to love all people including your enemies and if Jesus is Yahweh then he too must love all and save all just as Jesus would.
Jesus would say that God killing instead of curing is evil.
Jesus would say that God curing instead of killing is good.
If god cures instead of killing then there is no hell as a good god or Jesus would have no use for purposeless torture and death.
People of the Old Testament did not need to be told that God is good and holy. Compared to God, they saw themselves as wicked and unworthy, deserving of grave punishments.
And what vile religion would that be? And don’t blame your bigotry on anybody but yourself. You own it. Your hate is your own problem. You just need to find a healthy way to deal with it. I won’t discredit you. I know you’re struggling. Best of luck. I actually hope you succeed.
I did read the OP. You did not capitalize the word Bible. I guess my point was too subtle.
I’m an atheist, but I capitalize the Bible because that’s how others tell that you’re referring to the Bible, and not someone’s bible on how to fish, or take care of your bike, etc.
Creation implies a creator.
OK, there is a creator who has vast bio/engineering/physics skills. (The creation seems to work quite well without constant adjusting, well designed.)
But when religion comes in, the priests (and their buddy the King) try to claim that the creator’s engineering skills makes that creator an authority on morality. And they claim that the priests (and their buddy the King) know the mind of this creator in regards to moral teaching.
Creation may imply a creator. But creation doesn’t imply that this creator’s moral scheme are a good idea.
Further thought. Even though the world bears marks of being created, that doesn’t imply that the world is what the creator sought. Consider planing a board smooth, both the board and the shavings bear marks of being created. Is our universe the board the creator was interested in or is it a shaving, an uninteresting byproduct?
You have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil you make Jesus to keep your feel good get out of hell free card.
It is a lie, first and foremost because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, — so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, — is immoral. To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.
You also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
There is no way that you would teach your children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fibre as Yahweh. Satan applauds you though as you are doing her work.
If Paul, Ezekiel and Daniel had “visions” that no one else saw, it’s just hearsay.
Revelation is just a screed tacked on to the end of the Bible to help Christians convert nonbelievers with that threat - love your loving God or he’ll send you to hell.
