Ben_Natuf:
gooddad409:
she is even more right.
aren’t they all?
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SottoVoce:
toreyj01:
Ben_Natuf:
yiou can’t, because what i’ve said is all verifiably true. all you have is your leftist masters lies. he was told about it in jan, he formed the covid task force in jan. he didn’t wait. fauci and the whole team have verified over and over again that he followed their advice. nothing will change those facts.
the reason you claim its not debatable, is because your position is indefensibly built on the lies you were fed by your masters.
You do you.
Going to be a fear monger now, but if it’s the truth so be it. At this point it doesn’t matter what Trump supporters think. It doesn’t matter what science deniers, mask haters or hydroxychloroquine proponents think. It doesn’t matter what those that wear masks and social distance think or do either.
With the current trends, very bad things are about to happen. They already are. It doesn’t matter if we’ve gotten better at treatment and lowered the case mortality. If you lower the mortality by half but increase overall cases by 10 and lose the ability to treat mild to moderate disease because there are no staffed hospital beds…bad things happen.
Who knows, maybe an amazing about face happens and everyone can laugh at me. I’d welcome it. In reality, it looks like we’re out of time. The vaccine is too late. We have no truly game changing treatments. We do not have the capacity. Shoot, Doctors Without Borders is now sending medical crews to the US.
People will see which “lies fed by their masters” were true and which were not. I sincerely wish everyone the best of luck and health. I consider myself a realist and even an optimist, but after the meetings I’ve been to and data I’ve seen in recent days, this is the first time fear has entered my head.
Agree on this, I still hope that this spike, being as large as it is, will be shorter lived than the initial spike seen in the spring. If you look at 1918, the fall spike was more than double but had significantly shorter duration.
Again, just hoping here, but there is precedent that we might see some daylight in about 2-3 weeks time.
if the virus follows the same progression it has, we’ll see some relief as infection rates near 25%. I see no reason to believe it won’t. so long as its mostly young and healthy people getting it, it shouldn’t be near as bad as the cuomovirus was.
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Moderna vaccine is 94.5Z% effective in trials and is easier to store.
Allan
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Sknyluv
November 16, 2020, 2:12pm
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Excellent news. Sign me up. I’ll be the first in line.
Bosun
November 16, 2020, 2:34pm
248
New vaccine 94% effective. Let’s get that emergency use authorization approved. Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is working out well.
Yo, Goofernor Cuomo, keep your word and refuse it, you should not get any of the vaccine until late next year or 2022.
Bosun
November 16, 2020, 2:36pm
249
Unless you live in New York. Goofernor Cuomo and a lot of Dims think this came out two months early
Bosun
November 16, 2020, 2:38pm
250
cuomovirus . I like that. How many seniors did Goofernor Cuomo kill?
Cuomo clearly doesn’t respect human life. Neither do dims for that matter.
Look at their track record on abortion for example.
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Bosun
November 16, 2020, 2:40pm
252
CuomoVirus courtesy of Goofernor Cuomo
Bosun
November 16, 2020, 2:44pm
253
This is Chinese Wuhan Virus, Bro.
tnt
November 16, 2020, 2:45pm
254
I think this spike is being driven by bars, and private social gatherings, and in my area, youth sports teams travelling together.
Mask usage in my area is good in PUBLIC places, but private indoor gatherings are taking place at a rising pace.
I also know a ton of college kids who have gotten Covid, but their colleges seem to be handling it well, testing them and catching it sometimes before symptoms, isolating them, etc…
JayJay
November 16, 2020, 2:58pm
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SottoVoce:
toreyj01:
Ben_Natuf:
yiou can’t, because what i’ve said is all verifiably true. all you have is your leftist masters lies. he was told about it in jan, he formed the covid task force in jan. he didn’t wait. fauci and the whole team have verified over and over again that he followed their advice. nothing will change those facts.
the reason you claim its not debatable, is because your position is indefensibly built on the lies you were fed by your masters.
You do you.
Going to be a fear monger now, but if it’s the truth so be it. At this point it doesn’t matter what Trump supporters think. It doesn’t matter what science deniers, mask haters or hydroxychloroquine proponents think. It doesn’t matter what those that wear masks and social distance think or do either.
With the current trends, very bad things are about to happen. They already are. It doesn’t matter if we’ve gotten better at treatment and lowered the case mortality. If you lower the mortality by half but increase overall cases by 10 and lose the ability to treat mild to moderate disease because there are no staffed hospital beds…bad things happen.
Who knows, maybe an amazing about face happens and everyone can laugh at me. I’d welcome it. In reality, it looks like we’re out of time. The vaccine is too late. We have no truly game changing treatments. We do not have the capacity. Shoot, Doctors Without Borders is now sending medical crews to the US.
People will see which “lies fed by their masters” were true and which were not. I sincerely wish everyone the best of luck and health. I consider myself a realist and even an optimist, but after the meetings I’ve been to and data I’ve seen in recent days, this is the first time fear has entered my head.
As food for thought, the 1.5 million new cases that have been reported over the last week won’t show up as hospitalizations until two weeks from now.
And some hospital systems are ALREADY full.
WuWei
November 16, 2020, 3:15pm
257
I see a lot of cloth face covering usage too.
JayJay
November 16, 2020, 3:17pm
258
I would suggest not getting COVID right now if I was you…unless you are fine with the very nonzero chance if it turns serious on you that you will be triaged.
Camp
November 16, 2020, 3:30pm
259
You could also set a pro golf record.
JayJay
November 16, 2020, 3:35pm
260
Hey…someone had it and did great.
Therefore increasing the cases tenfold is no big deal because who needs to worry about the effects of exponential growth and the law of large numbers?
Everything is fine…nothing to see here.
Camp
November 16, 2020, 3:38pm
261
Anecdotal is as anecdotal does.
well yeah, but what i meant was more conservative.
