Oh goody. I just learned something about cars

Yeah just about every FWD transverse V6 car is like that.

Still better than new trucks though. Step one to just about every major engine repair job on a 2015-up F-150; unbolt and remove cab from chassis. Which granted when you have a body lift is actually really easy to do. But ya know if you don’t have that in your back yard you’re kind of SOL.

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Water pumps, thermo necks, timing chain covers etc that bolt to the block are a pain. Occasionally especially on older vehicles they break then you have to drill them out and re-tap. Lot of knuckle busting and language the wife calls “inappropriate for the grandkids to hear”. :winking_face_with_tongue:

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I can’t even begin to imagine what a dealer would charge to do a job like that. And I own a 2018 F-150!

It ain’t cheap let’s put it that way.

Okay . . .
I admit . . . .

When I say “Quick . . . . what country is this?”
Usually,
I am proud . I say it with pride.

Usually, Not always.
.

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1970 F-250 4wd with a rock crusher transmission and a 360 big block, max speed about 65 screaming down the road. Had to put a new starter in it. Took over an hour just to get the third bolt off the starter motor. New swear words and all, it was a tough job. Putting it back in was even worse, got the two lower bolts in okay, but for the life of me could not get the third one, and I had a good selection of tools too. Finally drove it to my mechanic on the two bolts and said I’d pay whatever it took to get that effing rackin frackin third bolt put in.

He said no problem, just leave it here and come back this afternoon. I came back 8 hours later and BOY WAS HE MAD!! :laughing:

Swearing up and down telling me what a pain in the ass that thing was LOL. I don’t remember how much he charged me and didn’t care at the time, I’d have paid anything. I was practically a mechanic myself back then and I’m about 99.99999 percent sure the factory put the starter on with the engine out of the vehicle. It’s about worth it to pull it out just to change the starter.

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I’ve always loved (hated) that stupid design some companies came up where they mount the starter inside the V on some V-8 engines. Toyota UR and Nissan VK engines are like that. It’s annoying because to change the starter you have to take the entire intake manifold assembly off. Granted once the intake is off it’s an easy job on either of them but it’s just annoying having to pull the intake and change all the gaskets just to change the starter.

Could be worse though. Some engines (like some late era Ford Duratec V6s with the 6RFE transmission behind them) mount the starter inside the transmission bell housing. Which is just stupid. Starter goes bad, yay we have to pull the transmission to change it.

It is not just the kids or libs staring at their phones.

Yes, I’ve seen that. Fortunately it’s fairly rare for a starter to go.

Apparently the rider never learned to properly lift the front wheel when jumping that whopping high ramp.
Also proves boredom can lead to be doing dumb :poop: that can get you hurt.

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A lot of things today cannot even be taken apart for repair without breaking them. Or they are fastened together with special head screws set in deep sockets that require a special tool that most people don’t have. I run into that frequently … and I have a lot of tools.

Another problem is so many things have circuit boards using crap components that can fail. If you are not equipped with the diagnostic tools and the knowhow and skills to fix them the whole machine they are in is junk.

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I had a '70 Camaro. I could fix anything on that car just using intuitive mechanical skills. The problem was that I was working on it all the time. My 15-yr-old Toyota Tacoma that I drive now has never had a mechanical or electronic failure. Good thing too … the only thing under the hood I recognize with certainty is the battery. :wink:

:backhand_index_pointing_up: Why automotive mechanics hate automotive engineers. :wink:

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I love those sort of videos. I particularly like that the spectators always laugh when the daredevil crashes face down in the dirt. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Only because the kids of the '00s are now adults. :wink:

Perhaps now, but in the '60s and '70s pulling starters to replace brushes was fairly routine.

Funnily enough you can still do that on some of them. I helped a customer rebuild a Chevrolet small block starter in the store once. I did some googling and found all the Borg Warner part numbers for a complete offset mount small block starter kit and found that we had one warehouse in the entire company in Arizona that still had a few kits in stock. Ordere them in and then together me and that rebuilt his original starter which came off of I think a 81 or 82 C20. Cool learning experience for me even though our manager got mad because I made the store eat the shipping cost on it and I could have just sold him a replacement starter we had in stock but the guy really wanted to keep the original starter case since it was the OEM one off of the truck.

I pulled my starter on the Camaro so often that I could do anything i needed to do on it and have it back in the car working inside of 45 minutes. (Book time was 3.2 hours.) Mind you I had to jack up the car and set it on blocks (I didn’t have ramps) so I could get underneath to reach the three electrical connections (that had nuts of three different sizes all in weird sizes like 19/64) so I needed three different small open-end wrenches while lying on my back on the dirt driveway.

I had to wonder how they came up with that book time. I once fixed a friend’s starter on a Chevy pick-up (which was easier, because everything was accessible from the top) that had the brushes worn down to where the attachment screws were scoring the commutator. We drove across town to an auto parts store where a friend worked to buy new brushes, chatted with him for a while, then took the motor across the street to an electric repair place and got the commutator turned. We then drove back to his place and reinstalled the starter. Elapsed time … Three hours. :wink:

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My wipers stopped working on a late 60s Ford Fairlane once, so I took the wiper motor apart. The cylinder shaped magnet were in half a dozen pieces and kind moved about. I stuffed them all back in their right place, with the magnets repelling each other the whole time and fighting me. Finally got them all stuffed back in there and the wipers worked for several more years.

Hmmmmm. I sold my brother a 76 Harley Davidson Cafe Racer and it needs a starter, but to be able to rebuild the original would be ideal. He can’t even find one to replace it. It’s a unique motor.