I’d need to see the “damning internal department survey” because I don’t trust the NYP to report accurately without strong bias. If its true, then clearly that’s something that needs to be worked on. Remember, the idea isn’t to let criminals out on the street so that they commit more crimes… its figuring out the best way to keep law-breakers who don’t need to be in incarcerated out of prison while keeping those who do, in, all while also being fair to both criminals and victims. There can be no set policy, at least at this point, to do this… its going to take work and trying different things. We need police and we need them to do their job and not be apathetic about it… but at the same time we give our police a lot of power and so we need to be sure they are using that power wisely and fairly.
Its a complicated system we have, but we are talking about people’s lives here, the cops, the criminals, the victims, and so on. Good enough isn’t good enough. We need to be able to experiment so we can learn what works and what doesn’t work.
Of course I know. You initially were trying to say that “why” is a mitigating circumstance. Your second note pretends that one legitimate mitigating “why” is that the person was previously incarceration. That’s no mitigating “why”. … aside from the question "WHY didbt they learn their lesson the first time? "
So your nonsense about incarceration being a cause of subsequent crimes is irrelevant… does not follow … is not a reason to let a criminal go free to commit more crimes.
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“A staggering 80 percent of the officers, detectives, sergeants, lieutenants and captains surveyed now fear aggressively fighting crime because of the threat of criminal liability, being sued, or being unfairly disciplined.”
.Move those same police officers to, say Florida where they are appreciated for putting their lives on the line and are allowed to “police”, that saddening and alarming statistic would not be the case.
JWK
Today’s Democrat Party Leadership is infested with Socialist Revolutionaries, the same kind that took over Cuba and now rule over the people with an iron fist!
Why someone committed a crime should always play a factor in their sentencing. Some previously incarcerated people have trouble reentering public society and finding work because of their previous incarceration… and because of this out of desperation that might try to turn to crime again because it seems easy… do you deny that this happens?
How do you know which criminals will go commit more crimes. How long do we hold someone in prison out of concern they might go and commit another crime? If someone might go and steal again a reason to keep them in prison for life?
You appear to desire a system where all criminals are locked up because of the potential of them offending again instead of a system that works to punish and rehabilitate criminals for the crimes they already committed. Is this an accurate assessment?
I don’t think you care why they committed the crime, just that they are off the streets forever.
Now wait a second. There may be a grain of truth in what the poster postulates.
Simon Martial, who has been involved in a number of felony offences dating back to 1998, and who recently pushed a woman onto the tracks of NYC’s subway system while a train was approaching which killed her, may very well himself be a victim of “the system” which did not put his sorry butt behind bars a long time ago where he could not have pushed the woman onto the train tracks. See? The “system” made him do it. Is that not obvious to see?
JWK
Today’s Democrat Party Leadership is infested with Socialist Revolutionaries, the same kind that took over Cuba and now rule over the people with an iron fist!
No, John… the system doesn’t make anyone “do it”. But trouble with reenetering society can be a factor that leads to people committing crimes.
As for Simon Martial, it sounds like he’s suffering of mental health issues and the system failed him. It didn’t make him do it, but it did fail to stop him.
If your desire is to keep criminals from committing more crimes, does this mean you support life in prison for all criminals because of the potential of them committing another crime if released?
