No, like not considering mowing down a bunch of people with a semiautomatic vs holding up a store with a Nintendo Zapper painted black to be the same.
Real gun with no bullets? Come on… that’s a stupid argument. Assume every firearm is loaded.
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The video confirms looters and smash and grabbers were essentially immediately released and free to engage in more criminal offenses against the property of hard-working American citizens.
Additionally, the following image confirms thousands of these thugs, who are immediately released, are re-arrested for additional crimes against hard-working citizens and their families.
Are you really that obtuse to not comprehend and confirm what is put before your very eyes?
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their most formidable domestic enemy.
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I’m probably the only progressive on these boards that don’t support many of the gun control options coming from the left.
At the time of the crime, yes, you should. But we’re talking after the fact.
The right severely underestimates the number of pro 2A folks on the left.
I see, so you’re moving the goal posts from sentencing to bail? And being dishonest by trying to pass the looting related to the riots as being the same as the type of crimes this memo is addressing? Tsk tsk. 
But sure, lets talk bail and not the memo your OP is about.
Cash bail is a bad idea. Bail should be based on the chances of the offender to offend again, not how much money they have access to.
Yup. Fairly large number of pro 2A folks on the left, and growing every year.
We just don’t feel the need to fetishise guns like some on the right do.
So, you are obtuse and refuse to confirm the evidence establishing Alvin Bragg’s type of policy, which puts criminals back on the streets, results in those very criminals being re-arrested for additional crimes against hard-working citizens and their families. And you have the nerve to insinuate dishonesty on my part?
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries are known for accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.
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Your “evidence” doesn’t establish that. And yes, you’re being dishonest. Here’s what the memo says about bail:
“4. When requesting bail, ADAs must request a partially or unsecured bond in the same
amount as the cash bail request.
5. If defense counsel requests, ADAs working in the arraignment parts shall inform defense
counsel prior to their client’s arraignment of the Office’s bail request and any plea offer.
6. For those individuals whose conditions, particularly their physical and mental health,
change during incarceration, the Pathways to Public Safety Bureau will review and consent
to a change in bail or release conditions if necessary.”
Your assertion that I am being dishonest is not only unsubstantiated, but borders on violating the forum rules.
You are the one dwelling on bail. Not me. My argument from the very beginning, and all through the thread has to do with allowing criminal back on the streets without facing meaningful consequences, as is promulgated under Alvin Bragg’s policy,
I do not appreciate you leveling an unsubstantiated charge of dishonesty against me, Stop it!
JWK
It is absolutely shameful that those in our mainstream media and Hollywood crowd, having achieved fame, fortune and great success under a free market, free enterprise system, now work to destroy that system and impose a notoriously evil, Cuban style government, on America’s future generations.
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Accusations of dishonest are wrong but calling someone obtuse isn’t? Strange place to put the line, but fine, I’ll refrain.
lol, what? You’re the one who posted the videos about bail!
Define “meaningful consequences”. Who should decide what is and isn’t a “meaningful consequence”?
Sure, in return I’d appreciate you not leveling unsubstantiated charges of obtuseness and obfuscation at me. You don’t dish it and I won’t dish it. Fair?
Getting back to the subject of the thread . . .
The evidence confirms that allowing criminals who commit criminal offenses and are immediately put back on the streets, without facing meaningful jail time, as is promulgated under Alvin Bragg’s policy, will subject New York citizens and their families to repeated criminal activities which otherwise could not have occur if these criminals had been in jail for their crimes as prescribed under New York’s Penal Code.
JWK
They are not “liberals” or “progressives”. They are Socialist Revolutionaries, the very kind who took over Cuba and now rule over the people with an iron fist.
No, it doesn’t.
“Cases where individuals released due to bail changes”
Here’s what Bragg’s memo says about bail:
“4. When requesting bail, ADAs must request a partially or unsecured bond in the same
amount as the cash bail request.
5. If defense counsel requests, ADAs working in the arraignment parts shall inform defense
counsel prior to their client’s arraignment of the Office’s bail request and any plea offer.
6. For those individuals whose conditions, particularly their physical and mental health,
change during incarceration, the Pathways to Public Safety Bureau will review and consent
to a change in bail or release conditions if necessary.”
There you go again, ignoring the evidence.
The evidence most certainly confirms releasing criminals, whether on bail, own recognizance, (O.R.), or however, without facing meaningful jail time, as is promulgated under Alvin Bragg’s policy, will subject New York citizens and their families to repeated criminal activities which otherwise could not have occurred if these criminals had been in jail for their crimes as prescribed under New York’s Penal Code.
The following evidence confirms rearrest stats of criminals
JWK
The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their most formidable domestic enemy.
Looks like Seattle is trying to up stage NYC.
“A Seattle-area prosecutor was slammed over a recent presentation to law enforcement officials in which he insisted police should “get used to” the district attorney’s office allowing juvenile suspects – even those accused of bringing a gun to school – to avoid jail time.”
I’m not ignoring your “evidence”. I’m dismissing it because it doesn’t confirm what you are asserting.
From the report that screenshot is from:
“[some name I didn’t understand says] the data doesn’t really give the whole picture because there’s no similar information to compare to just yet, and says to early to see a direct correlation.”
You’re comparing rearrests of people on bail to potential rearrests of people who have been sentenced, gone through some program, maybe paid a fine and/or did community service, and then was free.
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What I am asserting is, the evidence most certainly confirms releasing criminals, whether on bail, own recognizance, (O.R.), or however, without facing meaningful jail time, as is promulgated under Alvin Bragg’s policy, will subject New York citizens and their families to repeated criminal activities which otherwise could not have occurred if these criminals had been in jail for their crimes as prescribed under New York’s Penal Code.
The truth cannot be changed to what it is not.
Alvin Bragg’s new policy is intentionally designed to release criminals into society, who have committed some very serious criminal offenses, without serving the prescribed jail time for such offenses. Every thinking and honest person would agree this policy will result in hard working American citizens and their families to suffer criminal activities from these offenders which they would not be subject to if these criminals had been locked up in jail for the time period as prescribed under New York’s Penal Code.
But hey, you are free to do as you have been doing and take the outlandish and bizarre position that Alvin Bragg’s policy will not inspire a new crime wave in NYC such as smash and grab, burglaries and armed robberies, inflicted upon NYC’s hardworking citizens and their families by criminals immediately released back into the community under Bragg’s policy, who would otherwise be subject to serving significant time behind bars where they belong and cannot inflict suffering on the people of NYC.
JWK
They are neither “liberals” or “progressives”. They are Socialist Revolutionaries, the very kind who took over Cuba and now rule over the people with an iron fist.
JWK
I❤️NY
It’s a never ending case study in government failure
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The more the plans fail the more the planners plan!
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