Not just Twitter

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:13:01.812Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

DougBH:

Gad…to think of the number of times I have seen posts by tech “experts” in this very forum telling us how it is all just a neutral algorithm.

It’s funny, I don’t think I’ve seen those posts. Do you have an example?

No. I am not going to look through five years of posts . People who have been here and active will know what I’m talking about.
Sad you are down to “no it didn’t, no they don’t” as a reply.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-12-09T05:18:50.305Z

DougBH:

No. I am not going to look through five years of posts .

So you don’t have an example.

DougBH:

People who have been here and active will know what I’m talking about.

I’ve been an active poster on this message board since 2007. I’ve been particularly active in threads about social media and the law, particularly in the last 4-5 years.

I suspect I would have seen what you claim was prevalent.

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:21:33.069Z

You have no credibility left. I don’t know how to search for five years or so of these lies about it’s all the algorithms and you know it and are playing it for what it’s worth.

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:27:45.287Z

Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp suffering from widespread outages Politics

Their algorithm, like YouTube’s, give viewers what they are interested in. It’s basically mirror to your ideology that rapidly updates in order to keep your eyes glued to their app. If Facebook changed their algorithm to reduce hate, conservatives would claim censorship!!! It’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Mirror to your ideology indeed.

PurpnGold · 2022-12-09T05:30:35.215Z

DougBH:

Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp suffering from widespread outages - #108 by PurpnGold

Mirror to your ideology indeed.

Where was a wrong in that post? Is that not how those algorithms work?

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:32:14.641Z

PurpnGold:

DougBH:

Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp suffering from widespread outages - #108 by PurpnGold

Mirror to your ideology indeed.

Where was a wrong in that post? Is that not how those algorithms work?

Is this proof of media racism? Politics

Then you don’t understand their business model. Media operates on clicks and eyeballs. The more clicks, the more they offer the same content. It’s also exactly how YouTube, Twitter and TikTok operate. Except with more automation through complex algorithms. You can’t be indoctrinated with content you don’t want to watch, when you have the choice to change the channel or close your app.

PurpnGold · 2022-12-09T05:34:38.880Z

DougBH:

Sorry, no more gaslighting. I remember those claims about bias not existing because the choices were made by algorithms. Any allegation of anything else was just conspiracy theories.

Doug, what in the world are you talking about?

What choices were made by algorithms? I have only claimed that YouTube, Facebook and Twitter algorithms surface information for your feed based on what you interact with most. I never claimed that algorithms made choices that ban conservatives because they are conservative.

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:35:39.837Z

What’s wrong with it is that it does not mirror your likes. Why do you think YouTube thinks I want to watch these little woke channels and Democrat oriented channels that it keeps pushing on me? Do you seriously think my viewing pattern tells them this is what I want to watch?

PurpnGold · 2022-12-09T05:36:28.932Z

DougBH:

PurpnGold:

DougBH:

Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp suffering from widespread outages - #108 by PurpnGold

Mirror to your ideology indeed.

Where was a wrong in that post? Is that not how those algorithms work?

Is this proof of media racism? - #80 by PurpnGold

Again. I am just explaining how information that you might like ends up on your feed. Are you claiming that twitter employees are manually putting conservative tweets in your feed?

Serious question, do you use Facebook, YouTube or Twitter?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-12-09T05:37:33.146Z

DougBH:

You have no credibility left.

I am not asking you to extend credit. You are making the claim.

DougBH:

I don’t know how to search for five years or so of these lies about it’s all the algorithms and you know it and are playing it for what it’s worth.

You click the little magnifying glass at the top right, and type “algorithm neural,” or something like that.

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:37:55.457Z

YouTube quite often. Facebook some once but not now. Twitter, only when directed from another article.

PurpnGold · 2022-12-09T05:39:00.707Z

DougBH:

What’s wrong with it is that it does not mirror your likes. Why do you think YouTube thinks I want to watch these little woke channels and Democrat oriented channels that it keeps pushing on me? Do you seriously think my viewing pattern tells them this is what I want to watch?

It is possible that conservative content you may watch is a cross section with lib content. On my YouTube feed I get videos from Tim Pool and Brandon Tatum. I never watch them either but I do watch other content creators that reference their content to even have them on shows to debate.

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:41:56.864Z

Very well. Here you are again implying a neutrality to these algorithms. Only that is not what is turning up in the Twitter files to be how posts are amplified at all.

DougBH · 2022-12-09T05:43:51.539Z

Trump sues Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for "violating the First Amendment" - #145 by PurpnGold, Now we are getting data.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-12-09T05:44:10.092Z

DougBH:

Very well. Here you are again implying a neutrality to these algorithms. Only that is not what is turning up in the Twitter files to be how posts are amplified at all.

You don’t get to pass the buck like that.

You guys(c) are alleging bias. It’s not up to us to prove the negative.

conan · 2022-12-09T05:44:14.620Z

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PurpnGold · 2022-12-09T05:46:29.006Z

DougBH:

Very well. Here you are again implying a neutrality to these algorithms. Only that is not what is turning up in the Twitter files to be how posts are amplified at all.

I have no idea what you are talking about seriously. It’s like we are having two different conversations.

What do you mean by neutral algorithms?

conan · 2022-12-09T05:47:06.145Z

I wouldn’t play libs silly games of denial…they know dam well what they did/done.

PurpnGold · 2022-12-09T05:51:11.225Z

DougBH:

Trump sues Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for "violating the First Amendment" - #145 by PurpnGold, Now we are getting data.

You haven’t seen any data that shows this. None.

PurpnGold · 2022-12-09T05:52:15.818Z

conan:

I wouldn’t play libs silly games of denial…they know dam well what they did/done.

If you want to provide evidence for his claims, please do so. Otherwise I think you should sit this one out. We aren’t talking in duck memes.