No Joe Biden. We are not a “democracy”, which is a vile form of government

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@Samm

So you keep pretending.

You’re welcome to provide evidence that modern political science is wrong.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Why do you want me to stop talking about it?

Because it’s boring.

Nobody is forcing you to continue to reply, or read the thread.

Alternatively, you can put me, him, and others on ignore and continue to read the thread composed of only posters that agree with you.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

The Constitution doesn’t need to be amended because it doesn’t dictate which words we use and from what era they were defined.

You are right about that. The Constitution should never remove your right to be wrong. But my reference to was regarding an Amendment to change this country from a Republic to a Democracy.

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@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Dammit, I tripped up on that. Thanks, I’ll fix.

Now fix your other mistake. The US is not a Democracy.

I just voted, so it must still be a democracy.

They vote in Russia too … is that a Democracy?

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@Supreme_War_Pig

@Samm

Which is why it doesn’t work on a large scale.

What are you talking about?! It’s working on a large scale, right now, today!

@Samm

By the way, do you think everyone in the Greek Democracy had the privilege of the vote?

Don’t be ridiculous, of course not. Not everybody gets a vote in our democracy, either.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@conan

@fallenturtle

Its like liberal… you can say liberal, at least in the US, and most people know you are referring to the left and not classical liberals or libertarians.

Libs are not liberal…left-wing authoritarians disguised as being liberal.

We all know you feel that way. The point is that if you spoke to the average American on the street and asked them about liberals they would assume you mean folks on the left.

Never underestimate the ignorance of “the man on the street,”

Has nothing to do with ignorance, it has to do with the common understanding of words be they factually correct or not.

Says the person who’s argument is based solely on ignorance.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

So you keep pretending.

You’re welcome to provide evidence that modern political science is wrong.

The evidence has already been presented. You chose to ignore it.

[Samm]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Why do you want me to stop talking about it?

Because it’s boring.

Nobody is forcing you to continue to reply, or read the thread.

Alternatively, you can put me, him, and others on ignore and continue to read the thread composed of only posters that agree with you.

You are right. But did you miss the part about obligation?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Samm

The Constitution should never remove your right to be wrong

Everythinge else aside, nice turn of phrase!

@Samm

You are right. But did you miss the part about obligation?

No, but it also seems unlikely you’re going to get anybody who doesn’t already, to agree with you.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

The Constitution doesn’t need to be amended because it doesn’t dictate which words we use and from what era they were defined.

You are right about that. The Constitution should never remove your right to be wrong. But my reference to was regarding an Amendment to change this country from a Republic to a Democracy.

We’re already a democracy, so we don’t need to amend the Constitution unless you want to strip all the democracy out of it. But then it wouldn’t be much of a republic either.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Dammit, I tripped up on that. Thanks, I’ll fix.

Now fix your other mistake. The US is not a Democracy.

I just voted, so it must still be a democracy.

They vote in Russia too … is that a Democracy?

Yes. Just a very corrupt and unfair one.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@conan

@fallenturtle

Its like liberal… you can say liberal, at least in the US, and most people know you are referring to the left and not classical liberals or libertarians.

Libs are not liberal…left-wing authoritarians disguised as being liberal.

We all know you feel that way. The point is that if you spoke to the average American on the street and asked them about liberals they would assume you mean folks on the left.

Never underestimate the ignorance of “the man on the street,”

Has nothing to do with ignorance, it has to do with the common understanding of words be they factually correct or not.

Says the person who’s argument is based solely on ignorance.

I actually have evidence for my argument. You don’t.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

So you keep pretending.

You’re welcome to provide evidence that modern political science is wrong.

The evidence has already been presented. You chose to ignore it.

You have provided none. The US Constitution neither proves we aren’t a democracy or that political science is wrong.

[Samm]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Samm

You are right. But did you miss the part about obligation?

No, but it also seems unlikely you’re going to get anybody who doesn’t already, to agree with you.

Everyone starts education on a particular topic somewhere. It’s best to educate them before they form an opinion based on misinformation.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

The Constitution doesn’t need to be amended because it doesn’t dictate which words we use and from what era they were defined.

You are right about that. The Constitution should never remove your right to be wrong. But my reference to was regarding an Amendment to change this country from a Republic to a Democracy.

We’re already a democracy, so we don’t need to amend the Constitution unless you want to strip all the democracy out of it. But then it wouldn’t be much of a republic either.

So you claim … In spite of the facts to the contrary before you.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Dammit, I tripped up on that. Thanks, I’ll fix.

Now fix your other mistake. The US is not a Democracy.

I just voted, so it must still be a democracy.

They vote in Russia too … is that a Democracy?

Yes. Just a very corrupt and unfair one.

Now I know you’re wrong. Even Russia doesn’t make that claim. They call themselves a “democratic, federative, law-based state with a republican form of government.” But then North Korea does too, so there is that …

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@conan

@fallenturtle

Its like liberal… you can say liberal, at least in the US, and most people know you are referring to the left and not classical liberals or libertarians.

Libs are not liberal…left-wing authoritarians disguised as being liberal.

We all know you feel that way. The point is that if you spoke to the average American on the street and asked them about liberals they would assume you mean folks on the left.

Never underestimate the ignorance of “the man on the street,”

Has nothing to do with ignorance, it has to do with the common understanding of words be they factually correct or not.

Says the person who’s argument is based solely on ignorance.

I actually have evidence for my argument. You don’t.

As I said … unless you consider the Constitution to be evidence …

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

So you keep pretending.

You’re welcome to provide evidence that modern political science is wrong.

The evidence has already been presented. You chose to ignore it.

You have provided none. The US Constitution neither proves we aren’t a democracy or that political science is wrong.

The Constitution absolutely is proof. It defines all aspects of our government … our Republic.

[fallenturtle]

How do you explain that all these different reference sources disagree with you? You honesty believe liberals have convinced or taken over all these reference sources to change the meaning of "democracy? What would be the point?

Here’s more:

A republic is defined as “a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.” Sound familiar? It should.

You see, many of today’s democracies are also republics, and are even referred to as democratic republics. So, the US and France are considered both democracies and republics—both terms point to the fact that the power of governance rests in the people, and the exercise of that power is done through some sort of electoral representation.

The key concept to the word republic is that the leader of this government (or state) is not a hereditary monarch but a president, whether they are elected or installed

“Democracy” vs. “Republic”: Is There A Difference?

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@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Dammit, I tripped up on that. Thanks, I’ll fix.

Now fix your other mistake. The US is not a Democracy.

I just voted, so it must still be a democracy.

They vote in Russia too … is that a Democracy?

Yes. Just a very corrupt and unfair one.

Now I know you’re wrong. Even Russia doesn’t make that claim. They call themselves a “democratic, federative, law-based state with a republican form of government.” But then North Korea does too, so there is that …

Mmm hmm… “democratic”… in other words they are a democracy.