Like I said: New virus. As more info poured in that guidance was changed.
Which begs the question: was we don’t need masks the intentional lie, or we do need mask the intentional lie?
Like I said: New virus. As more info poured in that guidance was changed.
Which begs the question: was we don’t need masks the intentional lie, or we do need mask the intentional lie?
WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: tnt:Why would the challenge the statement that you are vaccinated?
Why would @Jezcoe claim “we all know”?
Do you know what epistemology is?
A way to avoid simple questions?
There’s some truth in that, although questions are rarely as simple as we pretend.
What is your simple question?
It doesn’t matter.
It is all performative. This whole mess.
Long accepted standards of public health are thrown out for lib tears.
It is bonkers.
It’s not that cogent.
It’s adult onset operational defiance disorder.
Oh. So than this “ I’m not flying “ is all bluster and ■■■■■■■■■
Got it.
No, you can have more than one reason to do or not do something.
Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: Oldandtired:Some people love freedom more than others.
Getting vaccinated against a deadly and harmful respiratory disease does not inhibit freedom.
For you.
And for you neither.
You don’t get to decide for me.
And I didn’t.
It worked out pretty well.
You know I can see your posts?
I do.
Did I force you to get vaccinated?
Like I said: New virus. As more info poured in that guidance was changed.
Like I said; wrong.
SpacemanSpiff:Like I said: New virus. As more info poured in that guidance was changed.
Like I said; wrong.
The very first things were wrong.
Might as well quit.
WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: Oldandtired:Some people love freedom more than others.
Getting vaccinated against a deadly and harmful respiratory disease does not inhibit freedom.
For you.
And for you neither.
You don’t get to decide for me.
And I didn’t.
It worked out pretty well.
You know I can see your posts?
I do.
Did I force you to get vaccinated?
Here you go. Deciding.
And for you neither.
The very first things were wrong.
Might as well quit.
Not wrong. A lie. He admitted to it. Said he would do it again.
Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: WuWei: Jezcoe: Oldandtired:Some people love freedom more than others.
Getting vaccinated against a deadly and harmful respiratory disease does not inhibit freedom.
For you.
And for you neither.
You don’t get to decide for me.
And I didn’t.
It worked out pretty well.
You know I can see your posts?
I do.
Did I force you to get vaccinated?
Here you go. Deciding.
Jezcoe:And for you neither.
That is quite a stretch seeing as how I can say with 100% confidence that my opinions about vaccination did in no way enter into your decision about getting vaccinated.
Jezcoe:The very first things were wrong.
Might as well quit.
Not wrong. A lie. He admitted to it. Said he would do it again.
Might as well quit.
That is quite a stretch seeing as how I can say with 100% confidence that my opinions about vaccination did in no way enter into your decision about getting vaccinated.
This is the part of the performance where we pretend you didn’t say what is in your post.
Jezcoe:That is quite a stretch seeing as how I can say with 100% confidence that my opinions about vaccination did in no way enter into your decision about getting vaccinated.
This is the part of the performance where we pretend you didn’t say what is in your post.
I get that there has to be a stretch
I really do.
No what we are witnessing is ideologues run amok.
In this country we have always balanced individual freedom with civic responsibility.
And it never led to individual rights being lost forever (although I know you will disagree).
Not even the Founders believed in complete unfettered individualism (I know you will disagree).
Jezcoe:The very first things were wrong.
Might as well quit.
Not wrong. A lie. He admitted to it. Said he would do it again.
Still the right call. He protected a run on PPE for the medical community that was going to need it to care for patients. Without staff in hospitals, a lot more people would have died.
No what we are witnessing is ideologues run amok.
In this country we have always balanced individual freedom with civic responsibility.
And it never led to individual rights being lost forever (although I know you will disagree).
Not even the Founders believed in complete unfettered individualism (I know you will disagree).
Good post.
I get that there has to be a stretch
I really do.
I’m watching you do it right now.
SpacemanSpiff:Like I said: New virus. As more info poured in that guidance was changed.
Like I said; wrong.
What’s wrong about it?
Studies are showing now that a vaccinated person like us can still get the delta variant but at half of the rate of and unvaccinated person and then still pass it along just like and unvaccinated individual. Letting in the delta variant has changed certain characteristics of the vaccine the new lambda variant just brought in is even more resistant to the vaccine no reason to think the new variants will not continue the trend.
We are just half as likely to pass covid as unvaccinated person. It does have its benefits we will likely stay out of the hospital but are likely to get infected. Also the delta variant being let in has also made it next to impossible to achieve herd immunity.
As much as I dislike the CCP they have from the start fought this better than we have by trying to keep the variants out and when one does get through test and isolate at all costs until it’s eradicated. The vaccine at the pace of the mutations will likely be as effective as the flu vaccine in a few years.
No what we are witnessing is ideologues run amok.
In this country we have always balanced individual freedom with civic responsibility.
And it never led to individual rights being lost forever (although I know you will disagree).
Not even the Founders believed in complete unfettered individualism (I know you will disagree).
That is a good post.
In this country we have always balanced individual freedom with civic responsibility.
Sort of. Where have the scales always leaned before being loaded? I would say “weighed” not balanced.
And it never led to individual rights being lost forever
When did we get them back?
Not even the Founders believed in complete unfettered individualism
You know you can’t say “the Founders believed…” some believed this, some believed that. The Founders were trying to set up a central government, not live with it.
And while they warned us, they hadn’t yet seen the abomination you © have given us at the bottom of the slope.
Madison almost immediately repented for one example.
Are you claiming I believe in “unfettered individualism”?
Studies are showing now that a vaccinated person like us can still get the delta variant but at half of the rate of and unvaccinated person and then still pass it along just like and unvaccinated individual. Letting in the delta variant has changed certain characteristics of the vaccine the new lambda variant just brought in is even more resistant to the vaccine no reason to think the new variants will not continue the trend.
We are just half as likely to pass covid as unvaccinated person. It does have its benefits we will likely stay out of the hospital but are likely to get infected. Also the delta variant being let in has also made it next to impossible to achieve herd immunity.
As much as I dislike the CCP they have from the start fought this better than we have by trying to keep the variants out and when one does get through test and isolate at all costs until it’s eradicated. The vaccine at the pace of the mutations will likely be as effective as the flu vaccine in a few years.
Since it’s not perfect, just toss the whole thing out, eh?