Nice try libs. Epic Fail

[Oryx]

@Optrader

You’re evidently not getting this. THERE ARE ALREADY MANY LAWS THAT OUGHT TO FORCE A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS HAND! Instead of detaining, arresting, jailing and deporting illegals who come into our country and committing other crimes (like MURDER for example) Joe Biden is suing Texas for doing just that. Joe is IGNORING THE LAWS! Why do you keep insisting that if we just keep passing more laws, eventually people who are ignoring the laws will start keeping them?

I’m not insisting on anything, I’m asking a question that no one seems to want to answer. If new laws aren’t the answer, then what is? What should we do now to require the next Democratic president to enforce the law?

[Eagle-Keeper]

@Guilds

@Oryx

Trump campaign doesn’t want any kind of border remedy before the election, imperfect or otherwise. That doesn’t mean he’s to blame for the problem, it means he’s playing politics with the issue, just like Biden is doing.

How is biden playing politics,when the guy that was picked to get this border bill done was a “very conservative” Republican (Senator James Lankford (R-OK) who obtained an ACU rating of 95 percent, the second-highest in the Senate.)

The both sides crap is…well crap.

Ask yourself this, why was just one Republican chosen (Sinema caucuses with the Democrats) who is NOT A LAWYER and whose education is an MDIV from a Theological Seminary?

Lankford made no ■■■■■■■ sense. I mean if I’m Mitch McConnell I’m not entrusting one of the most important pieces of legislation to just one of my senators and especially one who is not a lawyer. Why didn’t he choose Ted Cruz who is a lawyer?

At least with the so-called “gang of eight” bill put forth years I believe that there were four from each party. Also, Rubio who was one of the Republicans does have a law degree.

[Guvnah]

@Oryx

I’m asking a question that no one seems to want to answer. If new laws aren’t the answer, then what is? What should we do now to require the next Democratic president to enforce the law?

What do YOU propose?

[Eagle-Keeper]

@Oryx

@Optrader

You’re evidently not getting this. THERE ARE ALREADY MANY LAWS THAT OUGHT TO FORCE A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS HAND! Instead of detaining, arresting, jailing and deporting illegals who come into our country and committing other crimes (like MURDER for example) Joe Biden is suing Texas for doing just that. Joe is IGNORING THE LAWS! Why do you keep insisting that if we just keep passing more laws, eventually people who are ignoring the laws will start keeping them?

I’m not insisting on anything, I’m asking a question that no one seems to want to answer. If new laws aren’t the answer, then what is? What should we do now to require the next Democratic president to enforce the law?

First of all, the existing laws are actually stronger than the pathetic bill that was put forth, which would essentially normalize the situation at the border by allowing over 5,000 people in per day. For example, here’s what ANY president who doesn’t believe in open borders can do:

What Trump did to get control of the border

This is from the National Review link Once migrants were released into the country, they were unlikely ever to be deported, so the administration sought, as much as possible, to detain people until they were removed, which meant changing practices that, as it turned out, were largely discretionary. Soon after Trump took office, in early 2017, the number of migrants dropped precipitously thanks to the so-called Trump effect, the belief south of the border that Trump would enforce the law so z…

The answer to your second question is one, don’t elect a Democrat as president if you don’t want an open border. Otherwise, put together a real bill on border security like HR2.

[Oryx]

@Guvnah

What do YOU propose?

Well, I said that I support legislation. Maybe I’m wrong, but I believe the right law(s) could force a president’s hand. Beyond that, try to influence the Democratic Party and make them see that most Americans support secure borders.

Now you. What do you propose?

[Oryx]

I’m not defending the failed law.

@Eagle-Keeper

The answer to your second question is one, don’t elect a Democrat as president if you don’t want an open border.

Like I said, this is always a temporary solution.

@Eagle-Keeper

Otherwise, put together a real bill on border security like HR2.

It will be interesting to see what Republicans do when they next hold the White House and Congress.

[DougBH]

@Oryx

@gooddad409

He ignores the SC so why would he obey a lessor law…even if the law was worth a crap.

So you don’t think it’s possible to pass a law that a Democratic president would have to enforce?

I think ours and any government that ever did or will exist needs constant vigilance. Documents and laws help, but if not constantly tended to, they will fail in the end. One generation cannot guarantee the next.

[WuWei]

@Oryx

@gooddad409

He ignores the SC so why would he obey a lessor law…even if the law was worth a crap.

So you don’t think it’s possible to pass a law that a Democratic president would have to enforce?

I don’t.

[Guvnah]

@Oryx

Now you. What do you propose?

If we have a dictatorial president, nothing I can propose (short of unamerican extreme response) would help.

Nothing is helping now, and we already have laws in place.

Let’s go Brandon!!!

[Eagle-Keeper]

@WuWei

@Oryx

@gooddad409

He ignores the SC so why would he obey a lessor law…even if the law was worth a crap.

So you don’t think it’s possible to pass a law that a Democratic president would have to enforce?

I don’t.

The only real way to do so is to pass laws that take immigration away from the federal government and put it into the states. If CA, for example believes that flooding their state with poverty from all over the world is what they want go for it. If over those 4 years the citizens of that state decide it’s not in their best interests then elect a new governor.

[Oryx]

@Eagle-Keeper

If CA, for example believes that flooding their state with poverty from all over the world is what they want go for it. If over those 4 years the citizens of that state decide it’s not in their best interests then elect a new governor.

But as soon as they enter California they’re free to travel to any state.

[Guvnah]

@Oryx

But as soon as they enter California they’re free to travel to any state.

If it’s in the hands of he individual states, then other states can require green cards or some other similar authentication.