I thought Russia was pro Republican? It is going to come out eventually that AWAN was the one to breach DNC Security and not Guccifer 2.0, We are also finding out the Clinton Camp used Fusion to lobby Russians like Derepaska and Veselnitskya to meet with Trump officials to create legal peril! There is a word for that! Entrapment.
China is the real threat according to the FBI and Feinstein had an aid that worked her for 20yrs that was a Chinese mole for their government. Enemies are enemies!
You can usually get away with kicking a dog for a while too, but he may eventually have had enough and bite you, even if he doesn’t think he can win. No sorry, the DNC couldn’t even be bothered to hire a cyber security firm to protect their servers, that they got hacked is on them. And spare me your faux outrage, China has been hacking the actual government for decades and lalala business as usual, lets buy more stuff and borrow more money from them as punishment.
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Appeasing the Russians, as Trump has done, isn’t solving the problem.
My position and point still stands. I’m sorry that I choose not to act weak in the face of attacks on our nation. And it is substantially more than just the hacking of the DNC or Podesta, which you know already, but are conveniently leaving out in your descriptions. They are hacking state voter registration databases, conservative think tanks, candidates seeking office, etc.
You seem okay with rolling over and allowing Russia to do whatever they want in attacking our nation and our election process, because currently they are doing it in support of the man you claim to not support, which we all see right through. I’ll admit, you even had me convinced for a while, but that time has come and gone. You’re cool with Russia making us subservient, as long as it helps Trump. I’m not, and demand more of our government. I guess that is where we differ.
No i don’t think Trump is a Pawn of Russia.
I believe the USA government and private organizations need to do more to Protect themselves from Hacking of all kinds. They need to educate their people on possible ways the hack.
Again I don’t understand what you think the USA government should do in response to the hacking from foreign Governments?
Should these same governments do the same things that you want the USA government to do to them? to us?
Business and Governments can only protect so much and keep the data and systems safe.
Honestly I think we need to look at protecting our Infrastructure more. Real harm can be caused by attacking the electrical grid and other systems.
Who said anything about fighting a world war?
Yea i don’t understand the fear about Russia hacking our elections. Most of the machines are independent machines that tally votes the Russians would need to get into the actual individual machines from the start.
China has been hacking the actual federal government for a lot longer as well as other companies. All the past admins did was slap them on the hand and say don’t do it again.
I really don’t understand what Nebraska wants the Trump admin to do with out going into war over it. And then who do we go to war against? And is it a digital war or a real physical war?
Companies and the government need to get better cyber security period.
So give some solutions on what This current administration should DO.
I agree we need to do more on this front as well. But alas, the Republican-led Government and the Trump administration are doing nothing on this as well.
I already explained that in an earlier post. Lead the way on launching additional economic sanctions that further damage the economic viability of Russia until such time that it can be proven that they have been deterred from attacking us and the rest of Western civilization.
They can try, but we both know that the Western world will side with us here. I’m a patriotic American and place my country first. Don’t you?
I agree. Which is why we need to be doing so much more than we are, which is basically nothing right now.
Enact ALL the sanctions that Congress passed and coordinate with the EU to add some more because the Russian government continues in their actions. Massively ramp up support to Ukraine’s military and put international pressure on Russian to return Crimea.
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Lol, none of that makes us subservient, secure the servers, its not rocket science, hacking our voting registration databases is not some existential threat worth going to war over, against Sweden, let alone Russia. You are using it was a weapon against Trump, that’s all you are doing. China hacks us routinely and you and those like you don’t bat an eye. The proper response to hacking is cyber security, period. No amount of sanctions will end it, if you miraculously stop Russia, it will be a kid in his basement instead.
You do understand China has done more hacking that has actually gotten into more federal government things than Russia and you and Nebraska are only focusing on Russia and not China why?
I see you are now pulling a TRUMPism by saying I am not Patriotic because I don’t believe that Trumps administration should be the only one to blame for the hacking.
The ball keeps rolling down the Administrations.
So how do you plan on getting places like Germany to back us.
When we HACKED Germany our ally so you think they will back us in going after Russia on hacking?
US government can not protect Private business from hacking. Hell Target and other places get hacked a lot. The Chinese hack more sensitive items than the Russians did. You seem afraid only of the Russians but ignore the greater threats from China Hacking.
I don’t know what the solution is to prevent countries from hacking. Sanctions may only make the hacking attacks worse.
Yep He doesn’t like Trump but now it is all Trumps fault and he should be doing more to stop it.
But Clinton, Bush, Obama didn’t do much to prevent it. Hell Obama slapped China on the hand, and waved his finger.
Sure I agree Trump should look at what he could do. But I am not sure what would be really effective.
Of course it makes us subservient to Russia. They are attacking us. Period. You want to roll over and allow it to happen. That is a position of weakness. I want us to address this from a position of strength. And show them there are repercussions to attacking the United States of America.
And while I agree we also need to improve our cyber security, Trump and Republicans are refusing to do that as well. Which continues to leave us vulnerable, as we see with their continuation of attacks on us. No punitive measures. No improved security. We are doing nothing, and you aren’t troubled by this at all…because it is helping your team.
Seems like the Russians are targeting groups who are “seeking continued sanctions against Moscow, exposing oligarchs or pressing for human rights.” and this is supposed to be surprising?
Hogwash. I never once said that and you know it. I could care less who you want to blame from the past. Blame Harry Truman for all I care. I am interested in the here and now and what can be done to prevent these incursions and attacks on our nation. As should all Americans. I don’t understand how any American would NOT want to see us prevent these attacks.
Germany is our ally, no matter how desperate Trump is to weaken this alliance. It is absurd to believe they would not support additional sanctions against Russia. They have already proven, along with the EU, that they will back and support a global effort to punish Russia for their aggression.
Did you read the SIC report I referenced earlier? Russia engaged in a level of attack on our democracy that was unprecedented and unparalleled. And they are still doing it man. Do you have evidence that China is currently engaged in cyber-attacks on our voter registration databases, against conservative think tanks, against multiple candidates running for office in 70 days, etc? Of course not. Because they are not engaged in these attacks against us right now. Russia is.
Multiple solutions have been presented. What you seem to be implying is that we do nothing, because we may make them upset and they do it more. Should we take that same approach to terrorism? Not fight back and punish those who engage in terror attacks, because it might make things worse? Should we just roll over and accept it, and allow Russia to be the global superpower that is free to attack the United States of America and our allies across the globe at will?
Bull. That is a complete load of crap. I lambasted Obama for his failures in this regard. I blew him up over the Russia reset insanity. But the reality is that Trump is the President today, no one else. You can lament every single administration all you want here, but that does not change the fact that today, right now, there is only one administration that can do something about it.
One thing is certain…Trump’s decision to do nothing is not working. We are being attacked right now by Russia because of the current administration’s failure to act. The same is true with the Republican-led Congress. They are the ones in charge, and they are failing us all right now. Blaming Obama or Bush or Clinton does not change this reality of what we are facing in the here and now today. No amount of whataboutism from you will ever change this basic fact.
Te Obama sanctions coupled with dropping oil prices dropped Russia into a recession. Yeah he did nothing
