New Bipartisan immigration bill

Note the founders passde the Alien (and Sedition) Acts in 1798.
It chose14 years of residence as the cut-off.
But 14 is and odd number to choose. It is not a round number.

1798 minus 14 years is 1784, the exact year that the Treaty of Paris formally ended the Revolutionary War, (the English part of it anyway.)

In effect the Alien Act said “If you weren’t here during the Revolution you are an outsider and subject to removal at will of the President.”

You are perfectly free to say it was a bad law, but removing outsiders, even those who have been here a long time, has along history in the US, it was practiced by the founders, it is part of our DNA and is as American as apple pie.

The fact that they tried and rejected the 5-year limit is a point in Donald Trumps favor, not a point in favor of “path to citizenship.”

Require their employer’s to pay all their taxes, without taking any of it from the immigrant employee’s pay. The government gets its cut, but no long term benefits (tax payer costs) accrue to the migrant. And the added employer cost will make said employers have to decide if that foreign worker is really worth the expense.

Right. It’s decided. Even the IC couldn’t stomach that one.

Not to imprison.

I think some of my ancestors would disagree with the idea that a war is required first for an invasion. Usually, in matters of mass migration, the invasion, in the form of hordes of migrants, crossing uninvited into another groups territory, comes first, then the warfare follows.

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who gives a ■■■■ about the IC? We have one decider. he decided.

That is correct.
The Sediton Act had all sorts of provisions,
but the Alien Act allowed prison only for people refusing to comply with registion requirements, deportation orders etc..
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As I have posted for you several times before, Current law goes further.
Current law provides fines ($1,000-ish) and jail (90 days-ish) for

  • illegal entry
  • making fraudulent claims such as asylum claims
  • working here illegally
  • illegally employing someone monetary gain.
    And of course, if illegal employment is done in a regular and organized fashion (not just one day raking leaves) then it can lead to longer prison sentences asset forfeiture.

Not first. War or invasion.

There is neither.

Current law is not the current topic of discussion.

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Correct.
So . . . why did you bring up

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Thought the topic is whether MAGA has abandoned the founders.
Clearly they have not. Much like the founders, they tried one thing, it didn’t work so, much like the founders they now want the President to have authority to deport at will.

MAGA has tried only fascism.

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It isn’t how you perceive it, it is how enough others perceive it. The native side of my ancestors knew it for what it was. They were just up against invading migrants that were of a steel age society, trying to resist them with the tools of a stone age hunter/gatherer society. We aren’t hunter gatherers today.

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You know that slur is about as effective as screaming racist.

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No, it’s how the IC perceived it.

It’s accurate.

If someone of any race or religion crashes our borders and tries to force their way into our country, they immediately get sent home to apply for legal acceptance. If they try to be sneaky and violate out laws again, they lose eligibility forever. Great model. Why? Because nobody is above the law. And…I removed the racial and religious crap.

Nope.

Fascism :
a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Here let me try that.

Liberals are 2 cm tall and made of pixie dust.
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Nope saying stupid untrue things doesn’t make them true.
(And I just proved it.)

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Listen to Herr Homan.

Objectively, it is fascism.