More proof that the US has the worst COVID response

[Paul_Thomson]

Thanks for expressing your opinion. You have the freedom to be wrong. Enjoy.

[Jezcoe]

@Paul_Thomson

Thanks for expressing your opinion. You have the freedom to be wrong. Enjoy.

The argument that the testing is being done to scare us into Communism is just so very stupid.

[tnt]

@DougBH

What we’re seeing is that it is a total lie that the US is the worst country for handling this. There are many countries with around the same death rate.

And are the differences because of who had the most cloth face masks first, or are they due to the demographics of the country, how much international travel the country has, the number of tests taken to verify the existence of the disease, the honesty in reporting, the tendency of the citizens to follow social distancing, the age of the population…or a dozen other factors?

Or is it TRUMP!!!

Not true. We have 5% of the worlds population and 20% of the deaths.

[Ben_Natuf]

Not even that. Taiwan, Japan, Austr, are all Island nations, easy to keep it out, easy to control it. HK is also fairly isolated, SK’s only land border is closed. Ger, I don’t know. They are the one place that seems to have either handled it very well, or been very lucky. it’s why I always include Ger when I make comparisons of like population numbers and economies when looking at totals as compared to US. They are sort of like some states here, COVID comes in, but it just doesn’t take hold. Germans have a reputation for being fastidious, clean, regimented… could be cultural.

[Ben_Natuf]

@Jezcoe

@Paul_Thomson

@LucyLou

200,000. An unimaginable number. Look at them say “they don’t care”.

200K Americans have not died of Covid19. The testing and numbers are designed to score positive on far more than Covid19 it’s being done to scare you into surrendering God-given freedoms to communist backed state governors and mayors and bureaucrats. And it worked on you.

200k dead Americans will be true in a few days.

The rest of your post is nonsense.

200K props for leftist propoganda

[mollyBrown]

@Ben_Natuf

@Jezcoe

@Paul_Thomson

@LucyLou

200,000. An unimaginable number. Look at them say “they don’t care”.

200K Americans have not died of Covid19. The testing and numbers are designed to score positive on far more than Covid19 it’s being done to scare you into surrendering God-given freedoms to communist backed state governors and mayors and bureaucrats. And it worked on you.

200k dead Americans will be true in a few days.

The rest of your post is nonsense.

200K props for leftist propoganda

200,000 dead zamericans for some to ignore. Acknowledging the dead is not treating them like props.

[Ben_Natuf]

@tnt

@DougBH

What we’re seeing is that it is a total lie that the US is the worst country for handling this. There are many countries with around the same death rate.

And are the differences because of who had the most cloth face masks first, or are they due to the demographics of the country, how much international travel the country has, the number of tests taken to verify the existence of the disease, the honesty in reporting, the tendency of the citizens to follow social distancing, the age of the population…or a dozen other factors?

Or is it TRUMP!!!

Not true. We have 5% of the worlds population and 20% of the deaths.

and GER, GB, FR, IT and SP, have about the same shares with a higher CDR. Ypur point is what? That we’re doing about the same as them containing it but better on treating it?

[DougBH]

Other highly industrialized countries like France, the UK and Spain are even worse statistically. Did Trump do that?
You are including in that world population China, who started the whole thing and now seems to not be affected…and how reliable is their data…you are including areas of Africa that don’t have internatonal travel or methods or recording cases, you are including huge populations like India that are just starting up.
How come you people always when you want to say we should have some new left wing program refer to “other advanced first world countries” and now want to compare us to Ugauanda?

[tnt]

@Ben_Natuf

and GER, GB, FR, IT and SP, have about the same shares with a higher CDR. Ypur point is what? That we’re doing about the same as them containing it but better on treating it

I don’t think your figures are correct. Do you have a source?

[JimmyC]

You (and Trump) keep bringing up the higher CDR, while at the same time complaining that we have higher daily new cases because we test more than other countries. If we are in fact testing more and finding cases that would not be detected in other countries who don’t test as much, then of course our CDR is going to be lower. The CDR is not a good metric for comparison if there is a disparity in testing.

[DougBH]

Here are some figures for you as of Sept 10. They are the total deaths per WHO reocords and the population of the country. You can do the calculation of death rate. Some higher than US some lower. All not too far off.

Country deaths populatin (000)

Us … 190815…331002
UK … 41594…67886
Italy … 35577…60462
France … 30794…65274
Spain … 29628…46755
Brazil … 128539 … 212559
Mexico … 69095 … 128932

Actually, I think most of these have higher death rates.

[JayJay]

@Jezcoe

@Paul_Thomson

@LucyLou

200,000. An unimaginable number. Look at them say “they don’t care”.

200K Americans have not died of Covid19. The testing and numbers are designed to score positive on far more than Covid19 it’s being done to scare you into surrendering God-given freedoms to communist backed state governors and mayors and bureaucrats. And it worked on you.

200k dead Americans will be true in a few days.

The rest of your post is nonsense.

They were gonna die anyway…

[Ben_Natuf]

FR 31K deaths 381K cases pop 67M
GR 9K deaths 295k cases pop 83M
UK 42K deaths 369K cases pop 66M
IT 35k deaths 288k cases pop 60M
SP 30k deaths 566K cases pop 47M

Total pop= around 320M, total cases around 1.4M with most only testing symptomatic people throughout the summer, deaths around 150k
us deaths 194k, cases 6.5M, pop 328M

not much different, and europe is now a hot spot again, 90k in france in 14 days, the eu surpassed the us in new cases just a few days ago, as everywhere else, deaths will follow in a couple weeks. As there deaths increase, ours will decrease, nothing special about that, just different places on the covid timeline

[Ben_Natuf]

lol… minimizing success! how leftist of you.

[JimmyC]

It is not success that we have 9th highest mortality rate in the world.

[Ben_Natuf]

it is a success that we have one of the lowest cdr’s though. but keep up the propganda, the swamp prophet thanks you

[JayJay]

@Ben_Natuf

lol… minimizing success! how leftist of you.

No he’s right.

Comparing CFRs is worthless if the denominators are calculated differently.

You must normalize.

One way to do that is by deaths per million where the US is ai believe fifth highest in the world.

You could trend that as well because we do seem to be getting better…US number of daily deaths spiked after the summer time spike, but even though we had more daily new cases than we did earlier in the year, the daily deaths have not spiked at the levels we first saw.

But simply comparing CFR is worthless.

[Ben_Natuf]

worthless because it doesn’t support the leftist propoganda. not hopeless if you happen to get covid and would like to live

[JimmyC]

Unless you are testing at the same rate CDR/CFR says nothing about your chances of dying if you catch Covid-19. You are not aware of that?

[JayJay]

@Ben_Natuf

worthless because it doesn’t support the leftist propoganda. not hopeless if you happen to get covid and would like to live

No…worthless because math. If you compare two rates and they have been calculated differently, what meaningful comparison do you think you are going to find?

Not everything is political as much as you would like it to be.