Migrant crime, the extent and impact

There’s clearly been numerous incidents, which shouldn’t be surprisingly when this administration has capriciously and intentionally threw out the welcome mat to anyone who can utter the words “asylum seeker.” I think many libs were under the belief that murderers, rapists, criminals, gang members, terrorists, etc., were incapable of uttering those words but they are clearly being proved wrong:

He submitted an asylum application in January and was given a work permit that expires in 2029.

His arrest came a day before another migrant was accused of raping a homeless woman at knifepoint under the Coney Island boardwalk, while his alleged accomplice smashed her boyfriend with a pipe when he tried to intervene, according to police and prosecutors.

Daniel Davon-Bonilla, 24, who was ordered held without bail Monday night, allegedly choked the woman and held a “sharp object” to her throat under the Riegelmann Boardwalk, Brooklyn prosecutors said.

Davon-Bonilla, a Nicaraguan migrant, had already served a year in jail last year after he was charged with sodomizing another woman at a migrant hotel and was only released on June 24.

His allegedly accomplice, Mexican migrant Leovando Moreno, 37, was charged with assault for allegedly smashing the boyfriend of Sunday’s rape victim in the back with a pipe.

It seems like incidents like these though are becoming common. Myself and others (particularly @johnwk2) have posted other examples in different threads, but I thought it worked be interesting to dedicate a thread to this specific issue to get a better sense of the extent of this issue and how it is impacting certain communities.

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Here’s another one in Massachusetts:

Alvarez, 26, was released with an ankle monitor, but ICE officials can’t track him because Boston is a sanctuary city — meaning local authorities don’t have to cooperate with the feds.

Alvarez had no known criminal history when he entered the US at JFK Airport in June 2023 under President Biden’s controversial parole program for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans (CHNV).

It would seem like these Sanctuary City policies are very beneficial to the criminal migrant element that’s being welcomed by Democrats.

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He’s Hatian but his last name is Alvarez? That’s not very French or Creole.

Regardless, when you import people from a certain culture don’t be surprised when things that are pretty rampant in their home countries (like the stupidly high level of rape in Haiti) are brought to your hometown.

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raping a 15-year-old at a Massachusetts shelter

freed on $500 bail, not jailed, not deported…freed

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Good job, libs. :clap:

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migrant crime? well there used to be a couple of skyscrapers in NYC…

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It is estimated the noob Mayorkas has released well over 100 known terrorists into America. And those are the one’s that have come in contact with Federal agents.

What could go wrong?

Braces for stupidity.

Violent crime is abhorrent. It’s bad. I wish it didn’t happen, but it does. Even with US citizens, violent crime is relatively isolated in society. Most US citizens aren’t not violent criminals.

Same can be said about migrants. As a matter of fact, immigrants commit less crime than US citizens.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-focuses-migrants-crime-here-is-what-research-shows-2024-04-11/

“DO IMMIGRANTS COMMIT MORE CRIME THAN THE NATIVE BORN?

A range of studies by academics and think tanks have shown that immigrants do not commit crime at a higher rate than native-born Americans.

A more limited universe of studies specifically examine criminality among immigrants in the U.S. illegally but also find that they do not commit crimes at a higher rate.

A selection of recent research:
“Immigration and Crime: Assessing a Contentious Issue, opens new tab” by Charis Kubrin, a criminology professor at the University of California, Irvine, and Graham Ousey, a sociology professor at William & Mary. The 2018 study was published in the peer-reviewed Annual Review of Criminology.
• A meta-analysis of more than fifty studies on the link between immigration and crime between 1994 and 2014 found there was no significant relationship between the two.
• The researchers subsequently studied all aspects of the issue in a book, opens new tab published last year that came to similar results.
“Law-Abiding Immigrants: The Incarceration Gap Between Immigrants and the US-born, 1870–2020, opens new tab” by Ran Abramitzky, economics professor at Stanford University and four other researchers. The 2024 working paper was published by the National Bureau of Economic Research.
• The study, which used U.S. Census data, found immigrants had lower incarceration rates than the U.S.-born over a 150-year period.
“Comparing crime rates between undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants, and native-born US citizens in Texas, opens new tab” by Michael Light, sociology professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and two other researchers. The 2020 study was published in the peer-reviewed Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
• The report, which used data from the Texas Department of Public Safety between 2012-2018, found a lower felony arrest rate for immigrants in the U.S. illegally compared to legal immigrants and native-born U.S. citizens and no evidence of increasing criminality among immigrants.
• Light published a study, opens new tab in 2017 that found illegal immigration does not increase violent crime. The study used data from all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C., from 1990-2014. A separate study found, opens new tab no link between increased illegal immigration and drunk-driving deaths.
Cato Institute research, opens new tab by Alex Nowrasteh and others
• The libertarian think tank has published multiple, opens new tab reports, opens new tab that show immigrants in the country commit crimes at lower rates than the native-born. In a recent USA Today op-ed, opens new tab, Nowrasteh previewed new research that found immigrants in the U.S. illegally in Texas were about 26% less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans from 2013-2022.“

There are definitely individual instances throughout the country that show a migrant committing violent crime. However it’s not common and actually less common than you may be lead to believe.

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Good lord. Unnecessary crime is ok.

Glad I braced for that.

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Rape is abhorrent. It says in the article that there was inconsistent evidence of rape (which is common) and that was part of the justification for low bail and subsequent release.

Hopefully this gets fully adjudicated and justice served.

Most crime is unnecessary.

Fact remains, immigrants commit less crime than natives. Do you deny it?

Let’s be honest the people showing up at the border and the one’s they are importing in through this program are not quality people (by and large). I’ve said this numerous times, there’s a reason that their countries are crime infested poverty stricken ■■■■■■■■■■ It’s not like we’re getting the best of the best:

Nonetheless all the Dems want is more impoverished people and votes. It’s actually sickening what they are doing.

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Do you deny that if they weren’t allowed in that crime wouldn’t have happened?

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You need to tell that bull ■■■■ story to the families and victims of the rapes and murders of their wives, mothers and daughters by illegal invaders who not only were known to be criminals in the country they came from but were allowed to stay here in America.
The justification in your obtuse response is matter of fact foolishness.
Get back to us after you have conversations with parents of their 13 or 14 year old daughters that have been brutally gang raped and murdered by Tren de Aragua gang members. Your experience should be enlightening.

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First, off the data on this can be skewed and is incomplete:

Second, what has happened under the Biden/Harris Administration is unprecedented in US history, not only in the numbers of people but also in the numbers of countries being represented, which I believe is almost 180. So, whatever past data one wants to present is in many ways irrelevant to the current situation. Third, so many of these countries have very high levels of crime worse than the US, why do suppose that is? I suppose you believe none of the criminal element from those countries would never utter the words “asylum seeker.”

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Sure. Was he vetted? Did we let them in with a known criminal record? If not, the not solution would be to not allow immigrants from Haiti. Is that what we want?

I don’t understand this point. The “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd is ignoring facts to stoke fee fees over random acts of violence?

In no way am I justifying crime. Just stop.

If I was specifically talk to those family’s, of course I would not cite the statistics migrant crime rates. It’s irrelevant to that specific family. But when one extrapolates that crime to a broader “that means all migrants are rapists” then it becomes a bigger discussion.

Lumping all “migrants” together. How convenient.

As is the anecdotal random violent crime incidents you are fed by your favorite news source.

New studies will come out and we can use that outcome to make different decisions in the future.