Mexico staying with coal

“Poor” Americans … what we mistakingly call the poor in this country.

Poor in America, relative to America. They can’t afford a new roof, typically,

Yes, but not because of coal power plants.

I live a mile from a coal plant and about five and ten miles respectively from two others. There is not even a hint of air pollution from any of them.

It would be simpler if you just moved there.

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I guess if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist.

“PM10 particles are often from dust or soil kicked into the air, and the network warned that high winds were likely to cause an increase in particle levels.

Ozone and extremely small particles, known as PM2.5, are often triggered by vehicle emissions and are traditionally more of a problem in Mexico City. But they did not appear to play as much of a role in Sunday’s pollution spike.

Spring is dry season in central Mexico and it is also a time when farmers on Mexico City’s outskirts traditionally burn grass and weeds to prepare fields for planting.”

Nothing there about coal power plants …

“You guys” “always” :smile::smile::smile::smile:

No. The Borough has an air quality monitoring system. They are the folks who say the coal plants contribution to PM 2.5 and PM 10 airborne particulates is insignificant.

Then I’m poor.

You know, it’s okay if being “poor” sucks. Maybe it should.

That’s fortunate, but the air in Fairbanks is not considered good.

Carbon pollution don’t recognize borders.

Do the poor have access to underground shelters?

In case you thought I was kidding…

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You bet it don’t which is why we have commonly heard this refer to as a global problem. But the solutions I am hearing, only western countries need to spend more on green energy pay more on taxes, get off fossil fuels while china and others parties like it’s the great industrial revolution putting to shame everything the west is doing. But hey they signed the Paris accord, it’s their version of virtue signaling to the world.

Yes we signed the piece of paper so don’t look that we’re building new coal plants each week not only in China but across all of Asia.

I would have to look it up but it was a climate scientist who is on board full with global warming that sad every new coal plant brought online negates most everything the west does for the entire year. They are building one every week, and we are supposed to ignore that. It’s like going to the doctor with a compound fracture and they put a Band-Aid on it.

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I seem to recall something about people begging the mountains to fall on them to protect them from the wrath of the Lamb.

Too bad that Lamb taught his followers not to concern themselves with earthly treasures…they could have built their own mountains to fall on them…:sunglasses:

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Ah, but His actual followers will not face wrath. So we’ll be standing around in the open … even if rich.

Realistic scenarios. Hilarious when used in discussing who is going to be hurt by droughts and drenching rains because Mexico likes to use their coal resources to the benefit of their citizens…including the workers.

I wasn’t addressing the Mexico/coal/warming argument. I was addressing the notion that the rich suffer equally or more than the poor in these sort of disaster scenarios. I’m not agreeing with that premise.

True. The temperature inversions common during the winter, hold particulates close to the ground, but the EPA, DEC, and the location Borough Air Quality group have determined that the particulates come primarily from wood stoves, oil furnaces, and Diesel engines, not the coal fired power plants.

Temperature inversion also plays a large roll in Mexico City … that and 8.9 million people (vs. 100,000 in Fairbanks) living in the basin.