Manafort and Cohen..... Nothing Burgers?

[MickR55]

Yeah, you go with that, Piper

[Piper]

@MickR55

Yeah, you go with that, Piper

I did. Are you ok?

[SeaManatee]

@Piper

@madasheck

I guess your embarrassment level is pretty high to concoct this fake news thread. Whatever floats your sinking ship.

You’re kidding right? All we’ve heard for two years now is Russia, Russia, collusion, collusion and obstruction, obstruction and Robert Mueller. Somebody needs to apologize. We haven’t learned anything new, we already knew about the payoffs, that is a big fat nothing burger. Impeachment is still just a dream, Republicans rule the Senate.

Tony Pedesta, the Clintons and Obama’s DOJ and the FBI are in the spotlight now.

We knew about the payoffs in that trump said he didn’t know about them and Cohen did it on his own and we knew about Russia interfering in our election in that it could have been anyone, could have been a 400 pound guy in New Jersey. Or the women who accused trump of assault who are all liars who he’ll sue if he wins or maybe it was MBS and maybe it wasn’t or they don’t know any Russians, no one in the campaign spoke with any Russians or basically anything Trump says on a daily basis. We knew all these things, in that we knew the opposite of whatever Trump says is true.

All we’ve heard for two years are lies.

[Piper]

@SeaManatee

We knew about the payoffs in that trump said he didn’t know about them and Cohen did it on his own and we knew about Russia interfering in our election in that it could have been anyone, could have been a 400 pound guy in New Jersey. Or the women who accused trump of assault who are all liars who he’ll sue if he wins or maybe it was MBS and maybe it wasn’t or they don’t know any Russians, no one in the campaign spoke with any Russians or basically anything Trump says on a daily basis. We knew all these things, in that we knew the opposite of whatever Trump says is true.

All we’ve heard for two years are lies.

It’s your life. Happy trails!

[Apocalypto]

Trump supporters seem desperate. It’s all downhill from now.

[MickR55]

I’m ok - Is that a Boxer in your avatar? I’ve loved and lost many Boxers in in the last 35 years.

[Guntsu]

[Piper]

@MickR55

I’m ok - Is that a Boxer in your avatar? I’ve loved and lost many Boxers in in the last 35 years.

Yes. That’s Bolt.

[wonderingrover]

I’m still full from that huge nothing burger I ate last night

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@Apocalypto

Trump supporters seem desperate. It’s all downhill from now.

They think this is the end. I almost feel bad telling them this is the beginning.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Piper

You’re kidding right? All we’ve heard for two years now is Russia, Russia, collusion, collusion and obstruction, obstruction and Robert Mueller. Somebody needs to apologize. We haven’t learned anything new, we already knew about the payoffs, that is a big fat nothing burger. Impeachment is still just a dream, Republicans rule the Senate.

Tony Pedesta, the Clintons and Obama’s DOJ and the FBI are in the spotlight now.

Oh you knew about Russians reaching out to the campaign as far back to 2015? Manafort in contact with GRU?

[DOLOOP]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@Apocalypto

Trump supporters seem desperate. It’s all downhill from now.

They think this is the end. I almost feel bad telling them this is the beginning.

Even after Trump gets out of office (however that might happen) and serves the time he gets if he does, the Trump family will be facing corrosive lawsuits and civil or criminal actions by state governments for a generation.

The veneer has been wiped off of their invulnerability. They used to wield attorneys like a cudgel to get their way. That will no longer work for them as every aggrieved contractor and jurisdiction collectively senses their inherent weakness.

This is, indeed, just the start.

Keep in mind, the real crime in the payoff to Stormy is not the payoff to stormy.

It’s the payoff to Cohen.

That 420,000 dollars paid over 12 months to hide it as consulting constitutes an acknowledgement of the initial crime, plus, more importantly, laundering of campaign money THROUGH THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION, and likely involved the assent of the President. They basically turned the Trump Organization into a slush fund for the campaign. Sound familiar?

There’s a reason the CFO was granted immunity and I think that reason is to be able to describe the President’s knowledge and likely state of mind.

This is just the beginning.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

It’s funny. Its like they didnt know how government works and thought by trump becoming president they could run things at get away with everything like their businesses

[wonderingrover]

Trump’s organization is a privately held company, so he has had no accountability in his professional career. When someone runs a publicly traded company, they have a board of directors over them. They have to answer to the stockholders through that board of directors, thus, they are use to accountability.

This is one of Trump’s greatest weaknesses. He is not use to that accountability, thus thinks he can get away with anything.

That is proving to be a problem for him now.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@wonderingrover

Trump’s organization is a privately held company, so he has had no accountability in his professional career. When someone runs a publicly traded company, they have a board of directors over them. They have to answer to the stockholders through that board of directors, thus, they are use to accountability.

This is one of Trump’s greatest weaknesses. He is not use to that accountability, thus thinks he can get away with anything.

That is proving to be a problem for him now.

i think a LOT of people don’t understand the difference. i’d say a ton don’t understand what the board of directors do.

now, i’m not saying that CEOs can’t hide stuff from the board but i am saying it’s much harder and there is accountability.

[madasheck]

@wonderingrover

Trump’s organization is a privately held company, so he has had no accountability in his professional career. When someone runs a publicly traded company, they have a board of directors over them. They have to answer to the stockholders through that board of directors, thus, they are use to accountability.

This is one of Trump’s greatest weaknesses. He is not use to that accountability, thus thinks he can get away with anything.

That is proving to be a problem for him now.

He also seems to think that he has unlimited power to do whatever he wants. Which he (and his family) are quickly finding out isn’t anywhere near the truth. Being POTUS is not like sitting in Trump Tower.

[NebraskaFootball]

It’s a ghost town in here with respect to the usual Trump cultists. Where are they all? Reality finally catching up to them? Have they figured out they supported a criminal and a horrible human being?

[reflechissez]

Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse…

[mbus]

Most Americans know bad behavior when seen. It can be forgiven (all politicians lie) explained away (he’s a counter puncher) and justified (the economy is good). But the behavior remains reprehensibly bad; defensive, insecure, petulant, peevish, careless, dishonest, lazy and stupid.

Most will eventually see it and reject it.

[Apocalypto]

@NebraskaFootball

It’s a ghost town in here with respect to the usual Trump cultists. Where are they all? Reality finally catching up to them?

It’s very difficult to defend the fact that the POTUS you adore and defend, is named as a co-conspirator in two felonies.