Little Sisters of the Poor

[mobulis]

@WildRose

Of course I can. Hint, I’ve already discussed several in this thread.

Answer the question.

[WildRose]

I already have you just aren’t trying.

[wiley8425]

What’s the problem? Someone who can’t get pregnant won’t be having an abortion, now will they?

[mobulis]

@WildRose

I already have you just aren’t trying.

Answer the question.

[gooddad409]

@Smyrna

@mobulis

Prove its religious.

Thou shalt not murder

Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.

These are The Lord’s words, proving the sisters are attempting to obey their religious beliefs.

Very well put. Well put indeed.

[FlameHeart]

What a stupid post.

[Janet_Miller]

Typical snide, condescending attitude about others. It’s disguised as giving a good gosh darn about so called women’s rights and women’s health, but it really does show contempt for women in assuming 1) they can’t pay for their own essentials, or won’t, and 2) they can’t or won’t restrain their own desires.

Both are a load of crap.

[Janet_Miller]

I’m sure if a Red Crescent free health clinic was asked to perform services unacceptable to the Muslim faith, some posters here would be squealing like stuck pigs.

But an order of Christian monastics restraining their desires and actually living the poverty and chastity they preach, they’re fair game.

Disgusting mindset, proof positive that they really see some as more equal than others.

[Guvnah]

@WildRose

Can’t quite go that far. If it’s a case of rape or incest it’s hard to justify forcing the mother to bring it to term.

From the perspective of the inherent worth of every human life, it’s easy to justify it.

From the sociopolitical perspective, it’s hard to justify. That sticking point would sink a ban on the remaining 99% of unjustifiable abortions. I do not see hope for a ban on abortions that does not allow for that exception. I understand that reality and would not get in the way of a ban that accounts for that exception.

[WuWei]

@mobulis

@FlameHeart

Oh boy.

“High school biology.” Alright, first of all, high school biology does not go into enough depth in regards to how a human being develops- the development of specific structures and their physiology/function. It also does not state at what period in time the specific structures develop. Secondly, wouldn’t you want the person who is performing abortions to have some sort of training in surgery/medicine? Or at least have some knowledge of embryology or Gynecology/Obstetrics?

If it does not implant, it cannot progress much farther. It has the potential, but not the resources. If it does implant, then it becomes an embryo and starts developing even more rapidly.

This does not change the fact that birth control is NOT abortion.

Abortion is a form of birth control.

[WuWei]

@mobulis

@Janet_Miller

FR PHIL BLOOM

The Roman Catholic Church does NOT support artificial birth control.

Secular employers shouldn’t even be forced to pay for any birth control.

These so and sos want it, they can pay for it themselves.

Then pregnancy will go up and so will abortions.

Circular argument.

[WuWei]

@mobulis

Not murder, so nope funding is still not the same as providing.

Yes it is. If I fund your college education, I have provided you with a college education. I have also participated in it.

[FlameHeart]

No it is not. Birth control/contraception PREVENT pregnancy. Abortion ENDS pregnancy.

[Guvnah]

@WuWei

Abortion is a form of birth control.

Actually, it’s a form of life control. That baby gets birthed. It comes out one way or another. The only question is whether or not it comes out dead or alive.

[Guvnah]

@FlameHeart

“High school biology.” Alright, first of all, high school biology does not go into enough depth in regards to how a human being develops- the development of specific structures and their physiology/function.

High school biology makes it clear that a new, unique human life starts at conception.

Development is just a part of how that life grows once it is started, and is more the subject of embryology, which is a more advanced course usually taken by college biology and pre-med majors.

[mobulis]

@WuWei

@mobulis

Not murder, so nope funding is still not the same as providing.

Yes it is. If I fund your college education, I have provided you with a college education. I have also participated in it.

No you haven’t, did you teach me, pick my classes, etc?

[mobulis]

@Janet_Miller

Typical snide, condescending attitude about others. It’s disguised as giving a good gosh darn about so called women’s rights and women’s health, but it really does show contempt for women in assuming 1) they can’t pay for their own essentials, or won’t, and 2) they can’t or won’t restrain their own desires.

Both are a load of crap.

Only because you choose to interpret it that way. But the reality is govt funded birth control has been proven to lower pregnancy rates, this lowers abortion rates. So yes if you eliminate this funding pregnancy and abortion will rise.

[WuWei]

@mobulis

@WuWei

@mobulis

Not murder, so nope funding is still not the same as providing.

Yes it is. If I fund your college education, I have provided you with a college education. I have also participated in it.

No you haven’t, did you teach me, pick my classes, etc?

Good. So you don’t need free college from tax payers. Glad we got that settled.

[mobulis]

@WuWei

@mobulis

@WuWei

@mobulis

Not murder, so nope funding is still not the same as providing.

Yes it is. If I fund your college education, I have provided you with a college education. I have also participated in it.

No you haven’t, did you teach me, pick my classes, etc?

Good. So you don’t need free college from tax payers. Glad we got that settled.

I personally don’t, other people are different from me.

[WuWei]

It applies.